Week 16 Arizona Cardinals off season thread. 4/24/23-4/30/23

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I haven't really spent a ton of time on it, but my top 10 is probably...

1 - Will Anderson
2 - Broderick Jones
3 - Peter Skoronski
4 - Christian Gonzalez
5 - Devon Witherspoon
6 - Jalen Carter
7 - Tyree Wilson
8 - Lukas Van Ness
9 - Bijan Robinson (I don't really know at this point)
10 - Darnell Wright / Paris Johnson
I think mine goes like this, but it's more weighted by need:

1. Anderson
2. Wilson
3a. Christian Gonzalez
3b. Witherspoon
5. Van Ness
6. Paris Johnson
7. Skoronski
8. Jones
9. Wright
10 Bresee

Carter I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole with where the Cardinals are as an organization.

I value edge players, then corners, then OL. The OL are good, but not great so they slip behind the corners. I really like Van Ness but he has limited tape.
 

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I don't know if Robinson is on the radar or even the answer, but in my mind I've never been able to forget what Sean Peyton said about Kyler...that he needs a strong running game and someone he can hand the ball off to, to take the pressure off, so that everyone isn't just watching him run around and trying to be Superman on the field. To me, that was probably the most honest and authentic assessment of Murray and the failure of the previous offense.
I absolutely would love to add Robinson, and wouldn't be shocked if the Cardinals traded down to 10ish and drafted him
 

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Kollman has the Vikings trading up to 3 for at least 3 first round picks (and possibly some 2nds) and the Cards taking Will McDonald.

I'd be on board with this.

 

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Kollman has the Vikings trading up to 3 for at least 3 first round picks (and possibly some 2nds) and the Cards taking Will McDonald.

I'd be on board with this.

23 is a very long way to go back. That puts you past the top 15 players with round one grades. If they consider it I would also get their elite KOR dude who has taken several to the house.
 

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23 is a very long way to go back. That puts you past the top 15 players with round one grades. If they consider it I would also get their elite KOR dude who has taken several to the house.
If they got 3 1's and other picks, it's reasonable they could get back into top 15 rather easily, and still preserve some of those gains on the trade.
 

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Kollman has the Vikings trading up to 3 for at least 3 first round picks (and possibly some 2nds) and the Cards taking Will McDonald.

I'd be on board with this.

It would be monumentally dumb to trade that far down. That said, if they really, truly want to do it, this is the baseline and Monti should tell them to shove it if they won't pony up:

2023 1st, 2nd, 3rd rounder
2024 1st, 2nd, 4th rounder
2025 1st, 2nd, 5th rounder

Even then, I would want more. Again, monumentally dumb to trade so far down from #3 overall.
 

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It would be monumentally dumb to trade that far down. That said, if they really, truly want to do it, this is the baseline and Monti should tell them to shove it if they won't pony up:

2023 1st, 2nd, 3rd rounder
2024 1st, 2nd, 4th rounder
2025 1st, 2nd, 5th rounder

Even then, I would want more. Again, monumentally dumb to trade so far down from #3 overall.
You could use 1 or 2 of those picks to move back into top 15 to get someone you wanted all along, but not at 3.
 

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It would be monumentally dumb to trade that far down. That said, if they really, truly want to do it, this is the baseline and Monti should tell them to shove it if they won't pony up:

2023 1st, 2nd, 3rd rounder
2024 1st, 2nd, 4th rounder
2025 1st, 2nd, 5th rounder

Even then, I would want more. Again, monumentally dumb to trade so far down from #3 overall.
Man you are MASSIVELY overrating this draft class. I'd do it for four high picks, because I don't believe in the Vikings this year.

I think that this would be a fleecing:
2023 1st, 2nd
2023 1st, 2nd
 

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Man you are MASSIVELY overrating this draft class. I'd do it for four high picks, because I don't believe in the Vikings this year.

I think that this would be a fleecing:
2023 1st, 2nd
2023 1st, 2nd
The trumor, though, states that it would be at least 3 1's...so that's where you have to start, IMO.
 

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Man you are MASSIVELY overrating this draft class. I'd do it for four high picks, because I don't believe in the Vikings this year.

I think that this would be a fleecing:
2023 1st, 2nd
2023 1st, 2nd
Don't forget Kwange (sp.) The return specialist.
 

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Man you are MASSIVELY overrating this draft class. I'd do it for four high picks, because I don't believe in the Vikings this year.

I think that this would be a fleecing:
2023 1st, 2nd
2023 1st, 2nd
Then I'm glad you aren't in our front office. This would be a good Suggs trade back analogy right here. Trade far enough back so the already shallow talent pool is empty. Brilliant! If your only point is 2024 will be better, why even bother with the 2023 1st? Take more from their 2024 draft selections. For me? I just don't see this happening in any way, shape, or form, barring a stupid trade.
 

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Then I'm glad you aren't in our front office. This would be a good Suggs trade back analogy right here. Trade far enough back so the already shallow talent pool is empty. Brilliant! If your only point is 2024 will be better, why even bother with the 2023 1st? Take more from their 2024 draft selections. For me? I just don't see this happening in any way, shape, or form, barring a stupid trade.
There are still players to add. You could take Schmitz at 23 and be ok. Same with Breese. Steve Avila.

You probably end up "reaching" a bit but you can add a solid piece. Hell, if you have 23, offer your 2nd or Budda for Chase Young and roll the dice on him.
 

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Simmons is there?
Wasn't even there when they unveiled the new jersey
Did they pick the fifth year option
Or he is on the trading block?
 

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