The official Gannon/Monti/Petzing should be fired thread……

[kerouac9]

Like should have nothing to do with it.

JG has proven he can’t evaluate coaches, can’t evaluate talent, and can’t win in close games or even games that should have been blowouts.

He is a failure on multiple levels and I like JG as well.

Maybe but it’s not your team or mine. If Michael feels MOJG are the guys to make it happen, the injuries are enough of an excuse to justify keeping them around another year.

 

[football karma]

Maybe but it’s not your team or mine. If Michael feels MOJG are the guys to make it happen, the injuries are enough of an excuse to justify keeping them around another year.

to your point:


weak managers do whatever they can to avoid firing people -- true everywhere

weak managers who personally like the people they have to fire REALLY do whatever they can to avoid it

its what the fans are up against

 

[Cheesebeef]

Every single team HAS NOT had the number of injuries the Cardinals have had. Just off the top of my head we’re at 29
DEF
Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Ojulari
Justin Jones

Walter Nolen
Robinson
Mack Wilson Sr
LJ Collier
Nichols
Melton
Rabbit

OFF
Christian Jones
Hayden Conner
James Conner
Reiman
Z Jones
Fehoko
Jonah Williams
Will Hernandez
Trey Benson
Dortch
Murray
E Brown
Demarcado
MHJ
Weaver

ST
Blount
Vokolek
Gilliken

That’s off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more. If you don’t see how these losses have derailed our season, then you’re the one making excuses.

This team stunk WEEK 1 when they barely beat the Saints. And stunk even more in Week 5 when they lost to the Titans. That's when they were still relatively healthy. The Niners, Bears, Lions, Ravens, Bucs have all been RAVAGED by injuries to MUCH BETTER players and ALL of them are either leading their divisions or still in playoff position.

This team can take their excuses... for the third straight year and shove 'em where the sun don't shine. they're played and tired, just like everyone involved running this pathetic joke of team.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Every single team HAS NOT had the number of injuries the Cardinals have had. Just off the top of my head we’re at 29
DEF
Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Ojulari
Justin Jones
Walter Nolen
Robinson
Mack Wilson Sr
LJ Collier
Nichols
Melton
Rabbit

OFF
Christian Jones
Hayden Conner
James Conner
Reiman
Z Jones
Fehoko
Jonah Williams
Will Hernandez
Trey Benson
Dortch
Murray
E Brown
Demarcado
MHJ
Weaver

ST
Blount
Vokolek
Gilliken

That’s off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more. If you don’t see how these losses have derailed our season, then you’re the one making excuses.

Per AI...

As of early December 2025, the San Francisco 49ers and the Arizona Cardinals are leading the league in missed games due to injury, with the 49ers reporting over 200 games missed and the Cardinals also having a significant impact on key players, particularly their draftees. Other teams like the Buccaneers, Panthers, and Ravens have also dealt with substantial injuries in the 2025 season, impacting their performance.
Top Teams with Missed Games (Early December 2025)

• San Francisco 49ers: Leading with 206 games missed, plus significant absences not on IR.
• Arizona Cardinals: Close behind with 177 games missed, heavily affecting young talent.
• Cincinnati Bengals: Also high on the list with 115 games missed.
• Washington Commanders: Another team with a high number of missed games (143).

 

[BullheadCardFan]

San Francisco 49ers: Leading with 206 games missed, plus significant absences not on IR

And yet they are 9-4

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Suns win again against a team with more talent before missing their two best players

Because coaching and front office matters

Injuries are a bs excuse

 

[AZCB34]

With ALL the injuries sustained, there’s not a damn thing you can do to hang with a team like the Rams. An impossibility to even be competitive today. By far, the most injuries I’ve ever seen a Cardinal team have over the course of a season & I’m going all the way back to 1964. Too many new faces going in and out of the lineup to create any semblance of consistency. The entire training staff should be fired & then go from there.

I understand the Bears have more games lost to injury than any team this season

 

[daves]

I understand the Bears have more games lost to injury than any team this season

But they've had hardly any major injuries to key players.

This site does a great job of contrasting games missed vs. the impact in terms of EPA. The Bears do indeed lead in games missed, but are 15th in total points missed.

The 49ers, Cardinals, and Bengals have been most impacted and the Browns (!), Rams, and Patriots, least.

 

[PACardsFan]

You live in a world tinged by Cardinal red glasses. If you took your blinders off, you'd realize the Cardinals aren't unique, nor are they even dealing with the most injuries:

As of early December 2025, the Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, and Indianapolis Colts are among the NFL teams with the most missed games due to injuries, with data from Sports Info Solutions showing the Bears and Lions leading in total games missed (around 240 & 226) and the Colts with significant points missed, though teams like the Chargers also saw high impacts, while data from Spotrac.com shows the Lions with many weeks missed, indicating a heavy injury burden across the league.
Here's a snapshot of highly impacted teams:
Leading in Games/Weeks Missed:

• Chicago Bears: High number of missed games in 2025 (around 240).
• Detroit Lions: Also high in games missed (around 226) and total weeks missed (227).
• Los Angeles Chargers: High total points missed, indicating significant player value lost.
• Indianapolis Colts: High points missed in the early part of the season.

On top of the injuries, THESE TEAMS STILL WIN AND DON'T MAKE EXCUSES NON STOP FOR BEING TERRIBLE!

Those numbers are bs. I compute injuries weekly. Cardinals BY FAR had the most injuries week to week.

 

[PACardsFan]

San Francisco 49ers: Leading with 206 games missed, plus significant absences not on IR

And yet they are 9-4

Kudos to the Niners, but they also have a first ballot HOF HC. Doesn’t mean that the injuries that the Cardinals have sustained haven’t completely derailed their season.

 

[daves]

You live in a world tinged by Cardinal red glasses. If you took your blinders off, you'd realize the Cardinals aren't unique, nor are they even dealing with the most injuries:

As of early December 2025, the Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, and Indianapolis Colts are among the NFL teams with the most missed games due to injuries, with data from Sports Info Solutions showing the Bears and Lions leading in total games missed (around 240 & 226) and the Colts with significant points missed, though teams like the Chargers also saw high impacts, while data from Spotrac.com shows the Lions with many weeks missed, indicating a heavy injury burden across the league.
Here's a snapshot of highly impacted teams:
Leading in Games/Weeks Missed:

• Chicago Bears: High number of missed games in 2025 (around 240).
• Detroit Lions: Also high in games missed (around 226) and total weeks missed (227).
• Los Angeles Chargers: High total points missed, indicating significant player value lost.
• Indianapolis Colts: High points missed in the early part of the season.

On top of the injuries, THESE TEAMS STILL WIN AND DON'T MAKE EXCUSES NON STOP FOR BEING TERRIBLE!

SIS shows that the Bears lead the league in games missed by low-impact players. The same source shows that the 49ers, Cardinals, and Bengals lead by a wide margin in three actual EPA impact of games missed.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Any Cardinals fan using injuries as an excuse go look at the Suns and then get back to me. Coaching and culture CAN make a difference between competing and losing… and this team isn’t even doing that. It’s getting HUMILIATED.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Kudos to the Niners, but they also have a first ballot HOF HC. Doesn’t mean that the injuries that the Cardinals have sustained haven’t completely derailed their season.

How about the Lions? The Bears? The Ravens? The Chargers?

And this team’s season was derailed by Game 5 when it still had most of its marquee stars and dropped to 2-3 and lost to the worst team in the league.

 

[Stout]

Those numbers are bs. I compute injuries weekly. Cardinals BY FAR had the most injuries week to week.

We get it. The numbers are poo pooing on the narrative you have tried to push on this board for three years. Gannon and co are not good. Pretty easy to see that.

 

[Stout]

Kudos to the Niners, but they also have a first ballot HOF HC. Doesn’t mean that the injuries that the Cardinals have sustained haven’t completely derailed their season.

Nice! I appreciate you pointing out our utter HC deficiency.

 

[football karma]

Injuries matter, especially when you are in the upper 20% of the NFL.

But the 49ers!! Started with a SB contending roster, and their injuries have pretty much been on the defense with their offense carrying the team. Their GM actively patched holes right up to opening day with NFL vets.

Like the Cards, their backup QB played as well if not better than their starter. I think we would all agree Shanahan / Saleh "win" their coaching matchups more often than not.
On the Cards: while the injuries are one problem, there are a host of others that showed prior to losing starters. I dont think Cards coaches "win" their coaching matchups regularly.

The defense has been NFL average healthy and IMO is the primary reason, but not the only reason, the team's record is where it is.

 

[ajcardfan]

Any Cardinals fan using injuries as an excuse go look at the Suns and then get back to me. Coaching and culture CAN make a difference between competing and losing… and this team isn’t even doing that. It’s getting HUMILIATED.

That game last night in Minnesota was terrific.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

That game last night in Minnesota was terrific.

If people want to know what a good up and coming coach looks like, don't waste your time on Gannon. Ott is the truth!

 

[ajcardfan]

If people want to know what a good up and coming coach looks like, don't waste your time on Gannon. Ott is the truth!

Seriously. Basically the team is made of other people's garbage, except for Booker and Green, yet they are playing their asses off.

 

[Mulli]

Seriously. Basically the team is made of other people's garbage, except for Booker and Green, yet they are playing their asses off.

14-10 record. Amazing!

 

[JosiahLee]

It really is interesting looking back on the Kliff era. Fun fact, in his last season as HC before he was fired, he won more games that JG is on pace to win this year.

It was time for Kliff to go, but in hindsight I will always respect what he did. He took a ridiculously bad team that won 3 games and then:

-won 5 games in season 1
-won 8 games in season 2
-won 11 games in season 3
-only won 4 games the year he was fired. Though this season had unfortunate circumstances like D Hop's 6 game suspension, JJ Watt playing injured all year in his final season, losing K1 to season-ending injury, Steve Keim going AWOL

All that to say, it will continue to be insane to me if after 3 none-winning seasons JG gets another year to further sink this team. Especially after we waited patiently for 3 wasted seasons only for his 3rd season to be the worst one yet!!! That cannot happen in a rebuild!!! We were closer in 2023 then now, how is this possible!!!

 

[pemory09]

Just realized tonight that all this “JG is safe” chatter sounds suspiciously like the way too many years that were extended to Steve Keim. At least SK wasn’t awful, but he also wasn’t deserving of his many years on the payroll. Here’s hoping MB isn’t buddy-buddy with JG so we’re not stuck with him for too long since he’s clearly lost this team.

 

[HairZach]

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The Petzingfication of the NFL continues

 

[Cheesebeef]

Just realized tonight that all this “JG is safe” chatter sounds suspiciously like the way too many years that were extended to Steve Keim. At least SK wasn’t awful, but he also wasn’t deserving of his many years on the payroll. Here’s hoping MB isn’t buddy-buddy with JG so we’re not stuck with him for too long since he’s clearly lost this team.

It’s truly insane that we are possibly looking at a 3rd consecutive losing season and quite possibly the worst record in Cardinals history when all’s said and done in the 3rd consecutive losing season of this regime, and the regime will get a fourth chance to make everyone miserable next year as well.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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And some posters here want him for more. Good lord.