The official Gannon/Monti/Petzing should be fired thread……

[ASUCHRIS]

So this is an interesting stat you will think I’m making up. Steve Wilks never had a 5-game losing streak as HC of the Cardinals. Right now JG has two 5-game losing streaks this season.

One of them was discarded immediately...I wonder why...

 

[ASUCHRIS]

The Cardinals have a defensive head coach and spent this offseason pouring resources into the group.The result?

EPA/play allowed: 25th in the NFL
PPG allowed: 26th in the NFL

Many people here say that they're ok with the D. Why? Can ANYONE make an argument for anything that JG and Monti do well?

 

[some dumb guy]

The Cardinals have a defensive head coach and spent this offseason pouring resources into the group.The result?

EPA/play allowed: 25th in the NFL
PPG allowed: 26th in the NFL

Many people here say that they're ok with the D. Why? Can ANYONE make an argument for anything that JG and Monti do well?

Jeopardy music playing while awaiting an answer...

 

[MrYeahBut]

We need the old man whose brilliant idea was to change the locks on all the doors.

 

[PACardsFan]

With ALL the injuries sustained, there’s not a damn thing you can do to hang with a team like the Rams. An impossibility to even be competitive today. By far, the most injuries I’ve ever seen a Cardinal team have over the course of a season & I’m going all the way back to 1964. Too many new faces going in and out of the lineup to create any semblance of consistency. The entire training staff should be fired & then go from there.

 

[football karma]

With ALL the injuries sustained, there’s not a damn thing you can do to hang with a team like the Rams. An impossibility to even be competitive today. By far, the most injuries I’ve ever seen a Cardinal team have over the course of a season & I’m going all the way back to 1964. Too many new faces going in and out of the lineup to create any semblance of consistency. The entire training staff should be fired & then go from there.

kinda

offense is where nearly all the injuries are --

on D -- missing Mack Wilson and Walter Nolen def dont help, but that is standard week 14 in the NFL losses.

had they lost 24-17 yesterday, nobody would be happy but it would be far easier to attribute the loss to injured players

 

[Proteus]

The Cardinals have a defensive head coach and spent this offseason pouring resources into the group.The result?

EPA/play allowed: 25th in the NFL
PPG allowed: 26th in the NFL

Many people here say that they're ok with the D. Why? Can ANYONE make an argument for anything that JG and Monti do well?

They're good at losing games?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

With ALL the injuries sustained

Stopped reading after this start...you do realize that EVERY SINGLE TEAM HAS INJURIES?!? We have SF in our very division thriving in spite of injuries.

Making injury excuses in the NFL is the ultimate loser mentality.

 

[602 Native]

If Bidwill keeps JG at the end of the season the only reason will be $$$$.

You can’t keep this dude after these terrible performances that have been turned in this season.

 

[kerouac9]

If Bidwill keeps JG at the end of the season the only reason will be $$$$.

You can’t keep this dude after these terrible performances that have been turned in this season.

I actually think that he could keep Gannon because he likes him. He strikes me as just the kind of manage-up bootlicker that stays in the job a year longer than necessary because leadership is pulling for him.

This only changes if external stimulus applies. Unfortunately only one more home game left, and the Falcons are both bad and sad. It’ll be another nephews and interns game. Maybe people come out. Only an empty stadium would change his mind.

 

[GatorAZ]

I actually think that he could keep Gannon because he likes him. He strikes me as just the kind of manage-up bootlicker that stays in the job a year longer than necessary because leadership is pulling for him.

This only changes if external stimulus applies. Unfortunately only one more home game left, and the Falcons are both bad and sad. It’ll be another nephews and interns game. Maybe people come out. Only an empty stadium would change his mind.

They don’t have to be “yes men”, not “no men”. Somewhat smart football ppl know how to work Michael into job security. Wilkes was the exception.

 

[dscher]

Public pressure like this is only real shot we have at having a winner... Good to see.

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[slanidrac16]

kinda

offense is where nearly all the injuries are --

on D -- missing Mack Wilson and Walter Nolen def dont help, but that is standard week 14 in the NFL losses.

had they lost 24-17 yesterday, nobody would be happy but it would be far easier to attribute the loss to injured players

Umm… you forgot our defensive backfield.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Public pressure like this is only real shot we have at having a winner... Good to see.

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Good coverage, in summary, and good advice to Bidwill - hand over operations and just be the "owner", getting a stadium didn't improve the win rate or success of the team. He has failed over the past 20 years since he took over, he would fire others with such poor results.

 

[slanidrac16]

Good coverage, in summary, and good advice to Bidwill - hand over operations and just be the "owner", getting a stadium didn't improve the win rate or success of the team. He has failed over the past 20 years since he took over, he would fire others with such poor results.

So we should think that Bidwill will EVER think about giving the keys to the car and let somebody else drive it.
Ain’t never going to happen .
What else ya got?

 

[602 Native]

The Cardinals have a defensive head coach and spent this offseason pouring resources into the group.The result?

EPA/play allowed: 25th in the NFL
PPG allowed: 26th in the NFL

Many people here say that they're ok with the D. Why? Can ANYONE make an argument for anything that JG and Monti do well?

Posed this question almost a month ago.

There were no takers.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

So we should think that Bidwill will EVER think about giving the keys to the car and let somebody else drive it.
Ain’t never going to happen .
What else ya got?

Well, I was summarizing the guy on the sportscast - lol - I got nothing, I'm just here for the free donut holes.

 

[slanidrac16]

Well, I was summarizing the guy on the sportscast - lol - I got nothing, I'm just here for the free donut holes.

Yes I should have quoted on their page..can you pass a jelly filled?

 

[PACardsFan]

Stopped reading after this start...you do realize that EVERY SINGLE TEAM HAS INJURIES?!? We have SF in our very division thriving in spite of injuries.

Making injury excuses in the NFL is the ultimate loser mentality.

Every single team HAS NOT had the number of injuries the Cardinals have had. Just off the top of my head we’re at 29
DEF
Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Ojulari
Justin Jones
Walter Nolen
Robinson
Mack Wilson Sr
LJ Collier
Nichols
Melton
Rabbit

OFF
Christian Jones
Hayden Conner
James Conner
Reiman
Z Jones
Fehoko
Jonah Williams
Will Hernandez
Trey Benson
Dortch
Murray
E Brown
Demarcado
MHJ
Weaver

ST
Blount
Vokolek
Gilliken

That’s off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more. If you don’t see how these losses have derailed our season, then you’re the one making excuses.

 

[slanidrac16]

Every single team HAS NOT had the number of injuries the Cardinals have had. Just off the top of my head we’re at 29
DEF
Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Ojulari
Justin Jones
Walter Nolen
Robinson
Mack Wilson Sr
LJ Collier
Nichols
Melton
Rabbit

OFF
Christian Jones
Hayden Conner
James Conner
Reiman
Z Jones
Fehoko
Jonah Williams
Will Hernandez
Trey Benson
Dortch
Murray
E Brown
Demarcado
MHJ
Weaver

ST
Blount
Vokolek
Gilliken

That’s off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more. If you don’t see how these losses have derailed our season, then you’re the one making excuses.

I’m hearing you. But as Cardinals fans we are numb to reasoning. It just seems every decision this franchise makes goes south for one reason or another.

 

[kerouac9]

Oh no not Fehoko!

 

[602 Native]

I actually think that he could keep Gannon because he likes him. He strikes me as just the kind of manage-up bootlicker that stays in the job a year longer than necessary because leadership is pulling for him.

This only changes if external stimulus applies. Unfortunately only one more home game left, and the Falcons are both bad and sad. It’ll be another nephews and interns game. Maybe people come out. Only an empty stadium would change his mind.

Like should have nothing to do with it.

JG has proven he can’t evaluate coaches, can’t evaluate talent, and can’t win in close games or even games that should have been blowouts.

He is a failure on multiple levels and I like JG as well.

 

[Mulli]

Oh no not Fehoko!

If only they had VOKOLEK an entire season

 

[slanidrac16]

I like JG as well. I just think he is way over his head. As much as I dislike Payton I was truly excited that he might be our head coach.
But once again, we didn’t hire him and now he’s got the Broncos on top of their division as we are probably searching for the next Steve Wilks.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Every single team HAS NOT had the number of injuries the Cardinals have had. Just off the top of my head we’re at 29
DEF
Murphy-Bunting
Starling Thomas
Ojulari
Justin Jones
Walter Nolen
Robinson
Mack Wilson Sr
LJ Collier
Nichols
Melton
Rabbit

OFF
Christian Jones
Hayden Conner
James Conner
Reiman
Z Jones
Fehoko
Jonah Williams
Will Hernandez
Trey Benson
Dortch
Murray
E Brown
Demarcado
MHJ
Weaver

ST
Blount
Vokolek
Gilliken

That’s off the top of my head. I’m sure there’s more. If you don’t see how these losses have derailed our season, then you’re the one making excuses.

You live in a world tinged by Cardinal red glasses. If you took your blinders off, you'd realize the Cardinals aren't unique, nor are they even dealing with the most injuries:

As of early December 2025, the Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, and Indianapolis Colts are among the NFL teams with the most missed games due to injuries, with data from Sports Info Solutions showing the Bears and Lions leading in total games missed (around 240 & 226) and the Colts with significant points missed, though teams like the Chargers also saw high impacts, while data from Spotrac.com shows the Lions with many weeks missed, indicating a heavy injury burden across the league.
Here's a snapshot of highly impacted teams:
Leading in Games/Weeks Missed:

• Chicago Bears: High number of missed games in 2025 (around 240).
• Detroit Lions: Also high in games missed (around 226) and total weeks missed (227).
• Los Angeles Chargers: High total points missed, indicating significant player value lost.
• Indianapolis Colts: High points missed in the early part of the season.

On top of the injuries, THESE TEAMS STILL WIN AND DON'T MAKE EXCUSES NON STOP FOR BEING TERRIBLE!