The official Gannon/Monti/Petzing should be fired thread……

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

An issue with the CBs I'm sure of is that they can't play with proper technique because of the lack of pass rush and the terrible LB play. They are playing off so they don't give up big plays and giving up space underneath that is too much for the bad LBs to cover. People will say they should not give up that space then but that leads to them being more exposed in deep coverage because there is little pressure applied to the QB. Like most things on this team, there is no continuity between units which leads to a lack of complementary football.

Aw cmon. What’s wrong with defensive roster where…

The front line can’t pressure the passer or stop the run;

The linebacker’s can’t cover or tackle;

The corners play off coverage; and

The safeties can’t make plays in the passing game.

Oh yeah, everything. Everything’s wrong.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

To me its this: if this can happen to proven winners and legends of the game, then why should I be harsher on the same thing happening to unproven coaches? The best in the business being unable to avoid it tells me its not a coaching issue. Theres nothing any coach can do avoid a MASH unit situation, teams have endlessly gone through different strength coaches and it never correlates to injury luck.

Based on their own records when experiencing bad injury luck, I 100% know that McVay/Shanahan would also have losing records if they were our coaches this year. A lot of people see the back half of this season as proof that we have horrific coaches. The best coaches in the league have been in this exact situation and have failed just as badly.

I'm fine rerolling the dice on another staff, but I know a lot of people will be upset if we don't. I'm not that angry about the season.

Man this is just awful logic on multiple levels.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I have to imagine the folks who keep giving the Gonti combo a pass because of injuries aren’t Cardinals and Suns fans because you need look no further than downtown Phoenix to see how great coaching and actual depth and REAL CULTURE can create lemonade when the world hands you lemons.

This Cardinals team was predicted by many here to finally be able to compete in the division and go to the playoffs after a three year slow as molasses rebuild and then just stunk right out of the gate even before injuries started giving them excuses to flat out start quitting in games.

Meanwhile, the Suns gutted their team, went with a youth movement, got rid of one of the best players in the league and brought in a new coach who made a commitment to playing just flat out harder than everyone every night… oh… and were predicted to be one of the worst teams in the league. And even though they’ve suffered a RASH of injuries all season, despite all of the above… they’re 19-13, gunning for the sixth spot in the West playoffs and bring their energy and intensity to the game no matter who’s on the floor and who’s in street clothes.

In less than three months the Suns completely changed their culture. Gonti hasn’t changed jack squat in THREE YEARS.

 

[TheCardFan]

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I am guessing he said this from the toilet.

 

[kerouac9]

It’s so hard to evaluate such a terrible season. The first 5-6 games the defense was keeping us in games. The point differential was great.
Was that the real Cardinals?

It was not.

A “great” point differential is one that’s well in your favor. Good teams win big and when they lose they lose close.

 

[602 Native]

I have to imagine the folks who keep giving the Gonti combo a pass because of injuries aren’t Cardinals and Suns fans because you need look no further than downtown Phoenix to see how great coaching and actual depth and REAL CULTURE can create lemonade when the world hands you lemons.

This Cardinals team was predicted by many here to finally be able to compete in the division and go to the playoffs after a three year slow as molasses rebuild and then just stunk right out of the gate even before injuries started giving them excuses to flat out start quitting in games.

Meanwhile, the Suns gutted their team, went with a youth movement, got rid of one of the best players in the league and brought in a new coach who made a commitment to playing just flat out harder than everyone every night… oh… and were predicted to be one of the worst teams in the league. And even though they’ve suffered a RASH of injuries all season, despite all of the above… they’re 19-13, gunning for the sixth spot in the West playoffs and bring their energy and intensity to the game no matter who’s on the floor and who’s in street clothes.

In less than three months the Suns completely changed their culture. Gonti hasn’t changed jack squat in THREE YEARS.

Ishbia is a winner

The Bidwillians are total and complete losers

 

[Mulli]

Ishbia is a winner

The Bidwillians are total and complete losers

What has Ishbia won?

 

[Zeno]

I think the difference is Wilks was throwing players under the bus every press conference.

Its not over until black Monday, Bidwill could change his mind any minute.

Players seemed to love him despite being thrown under the bus.

“I love Wilks," Fitzgerald said. "Great dude. We all play hard for him. That's the team -- not me alone -- speaking on it."
Or this…

“I know I was playing my (expletive) off for Steve Wilks,” Edmonds said, “because Steve Wilks deserved better and he deserved better than what we gave him this year.”

Or this…

“I was able to work with Coach Wilks, man, and he came to work every day, went hard, did his job, tried to get everybody going, tried to get everyone motivated. So I respect the man,” Golden said. “I’m glad I got to play for him.”

Wilks, like Gannon, was a terrible head coach and was fired because of results on the field. If Bidwill doesn’t fire Gannon using the same standard it’s a bad freaking look.

 

[602 Native]

What has Ishbia won?

In life and built an empire outside of silver spoon Bidwill, M.. He also I think won a title as a player at the collegiate level. Dude is for sure a winner.

 

[TheCardFan]

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[602 Native]

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One of these things is not like the other

 

[slanidrac16]

It was not.

A “great” point differential is one that’s well in your favor. Good teams win big and when they lose they lose close.

I phrased that wrong. Our point differential showed our defense was doing their job keeping scoring down.

 

[kerouac9]

I phrased that wrong. Our point differential showed our defense was doing their job keeping scoring down.

The points allowed through five games (19.2) showed our defense was doing enough (average NFL team scores 23 ppg).

Those five games included the 29th and 27th scoring offenses, of course

 

[phillycard]

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*cue laugh track*

 

[Mulli]

*cue laugh track*

Clearly they are the best 3-14 team ever.

Depth and talent all over the roster.

 

[phillycard]

We traded the 35th overall pick to move down for Melton. DeJean was selected 40th overall.

Thank you K. I knew I wasn't tripping. I remember that gaffe well because my wife and I were travelling and checking into our hotel and I was trying to rush her to the room so I could watch our pick thinking and hoping it would be DeJean. Come to find out we traded down.

 

[HairZach]

Wilks, like Gannon, was a terrible head coach and was fired because of results on the field. If Bidwill doesn’t fire Gannon using the same standard it’s a bad freaking look.

It's different from the Wilks year. We've used a league high 80 different players this year. We've had to play 27 different players who couldn't make a 53 man roster at the start of the season.

 

[phillycard]

Meanwhile, Cooper Dejean…

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[Dayman]

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The same week Melton was benched. Monti is a clown.

 

[kerouac9]

It's different from the Wilks year. We've used a league high 80 different players this year. We've had to play 27 different players who couldn't make a 53 man roster at the start of the season.

Are you the Cards PR guy? Play them where, and for how long? We’re not going to be 3-14 because Josiah Deguara played 78 offensive snaps. Cmon.

 

[Zeno]

It's different from the Wilks year. We've used a league high 80 different players this year. We've had to play 27 different players who couldn't make a 53 man roster at the start of the season.

Are you ignoring the fact that he is 3 years in and about to break his own franchise record for points allowed by an opponent (that is unless he somehow stops the Rams from scoring 5 points)? 14 losses will be the worst loss total in franchise history--and our franchise doesn't exactly have a stellar history, he is already tied for the most losses with 13 (which he has done twice in 3 years). if Gannon was in year one maybe he'd deserve a pass but he isn't, this team is performing worse on the field than the Wilks led team did--and they did it with Josh Rosen at QB. He has to be judged on what his record is so far and 20 games under .500 should be a nail in any coaches coffin.

I don't care about the injuries he hasn't done a thing to make me think he has "it" for turning this team around. He is a distant 4th in coaching acumen in our division, his record against the NFC West is abysmal.

 

[football karma]

In life and built an empire outside of silver spoon Bidwill, M.. He also I think won a title as a player at the collegiate level. Dude is for sure a winner.

Matt Ishbia inherited a company his father founded

to his credit, he made it much larger than it was -- but still

im not defending Bidwill here -- but for good reason I am not ready to declare Matt I a "good owner".

 

[Chopper0080]

I have been mentally preparing for the Cardinals to run it back in 2026 sans Kyler Murray. It will still be shocking but just like the other ways the Cardinals have shocked my with their incompetence.

 

[Mulli]

Matt Ishbia inherited a company his father founded

to his credit, he made it much larger than it was -- but still

im not defending Bidwill here -- but for good reason I am not ready to declare Matt I a "good owner".

Who traded for Kevin Durant?

 

[Cheesebeef]

I have been mentally preparing for the Cardinals to run it back in 2026 sans Kyler Murray. It will still be shocking but just like the other ways the Cardinals have shocked my with their incompetence.

Running all this complete and utter incompetence would truly be a new low, even for the Cardinals.

But I could see it happening.