The official Gannon/Monti/Petzing should be fired thread……

[Chopper0080]

Also Gannon’s background is DBs. Lots of weird stuff going on with this team that’s flying under the radar because local press don’t care.

What is going on with Evan Brown?

I tried to get info on the "personal reasons" from some online guys but no response. My guess is that they told him they wanted to give the young guys some looks and either bench him or rotate him, and he said hell no.

Like they say, don't take criticism from someone you wouldn't take advise from. He is likely getting cut next year anyways so he doesn't have any long term commitment to these clowns.

 

[PDXChris]

He was 20-28 after three seasons in Cleveland. It’s not even close.

I know, that's why I said it was the closest I could find and it's not even close.

 

[602 Native]

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[HairZach]

Yeah, but you said it... two of Shanahan's 6-win seasons came after Super Bowl appearances, and McVay's lone bad season came after his second Super Bowl appearance and a Lombardi trophy. They had already proven that they're great coaches.

This season's masterpiece by Gannon comes after another 4-win season and an 8-9 season.

To me its this: if this can happen to proven winners and legends of the game, then why should I be harsher on the same thing happening to unproven coaches? The best in the business being unable to avoid it tells me its not a coaching issue. Theres nothing any coach can do avoid a MASH unit situation, teams have endlessly gone through different strength coaches and it never correlates to injury luck.

Based on their own records when experiencing bad injury luck, I 100% know that McVay/Shanahan would also have losing records if they were our coaches this year. A lot of people see the back half of this season as proof that we have horrific coaches. The best coaches in the league have been in this exact situation and have failed just as badly.

I'm fine rerolling the dice on another staff, but I know a lot of people will be upset if we don't. I'm not that angry about the season.

 

[Chopper0080]

To me its this: if this can happen to proven winners and legends of the game, then why should I be harsher on the same thing happening to unproven coaches? The best in the business being unable to avoid it tells me its not a coaching issue. Theres nothing any coach can do avoid a MASH unit situation, teams have endlessly gone through different strength coaches and it never correlates to injury luck.

Based on their own records when experiencing bad injury luck, I 100% know that McVay/Shanahan would also have losing records if they were our coaches this year. A lot of people see the back half of this season as proof that we have horrific coaches. The best coaches in the league have been in this exact situation and have failed just as badly.

I'm fine rerolling the dice on another staff, but I know a lot of people will be upset if we don't. I'm not that angry about the season.

The 2025 49ers laugh at this. That is an example of not using injuries as an excuse and coaching guys up.

 

[HairZach]

Shane Steichen is 25-25 in his career despite dealing with QB chaos the entire time. Gannon is 15-35. One of those things is not like the other.

I would take Shane/Ballard over Gannon/Monti any time. Colts fans on reddit and on fan sites all seem to be in favor of firing both.

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[AsUpRoDiGy]

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The system works!

 

[HairZach]

The 2025 49ers laugh at this. That is an example of not using injuries as an excuse and coaching guys up.

I guess the 2024 49ers were coached by total chumps who got fired for failing to coach guys up?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Is there a difference in your mind between 3 and 6 wins? We blew the doors off a tanking 49ers squad week 18 last year. Last years 49ers squad was losing 35-10 every other week.

You are incorrect. Two of our division mates have bottomed out in similar fashion and they did not fire their coaches at the bye. It was not "inexcusable."

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Really? Double?

 

[kerouac9]

I guess the 2024 49ers were coached by total chumps who got fired for failing to coach guys up?

I don’t understand why you ignore the two additional years of evidence that this group doesn’t know how to coach winners

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

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Get this dude a Gambo limo asap

 

[daves]

The best I could find was a coach who went 36-44 in Cleveland and was ran out of town to go on to win 6 SBs. I'd take 36-44 at this point! HA

Gannon would have to go 12-5 for the next two seasons to catch up to Belichick's Cleveland winning percentage. Oof.

 

[Mickdog]

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[Zeno]

This was Bidwill when he fired Steve Wilks, everything he is saying applies to this coaching staff…

“It was a very tough decision but when I looked at the record, when I looked at the lack of competitiveness, the games of that record and the direction we were going in, I felt like it was in the best interest of the organization to go in a different direction," team president Michael Bidwill said. "And certainly the performance, it's a results-oriented business, and if you don't win, everybody knows what happens."

 

[Dayman]

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Somebody's got to.

 

[Zeno]

I will be on a plane to Hawaii next Monday, hopefully by the time I land his firing will be announced.

 

[Mulli]

And no safety help in coverage from Pro Bowler?

 

[football karma]

My guess is that they told him they wanted to give the young guys some looks and either bench him or rotate him, and he said hell no.

they wouldnt have to pay him if he did that

 

[slanidrac16]

To me its this: if this can happen to proven winners and legends of the game, then why should I be harsher on the same thing happening to unproven coaches? The best in the business being unable to avoid it tells me its not a coaching issue. Theres nothing any coach can do avoid a MASH unit situation, teams have endlessly gone through different strength coaches and it never correlates to injury luck.

Based on their own records when experiencing bad injury luck, I 100% know that McVay/Shanahan would also have losing records if they were our coaches this year. A lot of people see the back half of this season as proof that we have horrific coaches. The best coaches in the league have been in this exact situation and have failed just as badly.

I'm fine rerolling the dice on another staff, but I know a lot of people will be upset if we don't. I'm not that angry about the season.

It’s so hard to evaluate such a terrible season. The first 5-6 games the defense was keeping us in games. The point differential was great.
Was that the real Cardinals?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Man god bless Kyle Odegaard

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[HairZach]

This was Bidwill when he fired Steve Wilks, everything he is saying applies to this coaching staff…

“It was a very tough decision but when I looked at the record, when I looked at the lack of competitiveness, the games of that record and the direction we were going in, I felt like it was in the best interest of the organization to go in a different direction," team president Michael Bidwill said. "And certainly the performance, it's a results-oriented business, and if you don't win, everybody knows what happens."

I think the difference is Wilks was throwing players under the bus every press conference.

Its not over until black Monday, Bidwill could change his mind any minute.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Yeah bring em all back!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

My point is this sort of season happens to the best organizations in the league with proven HOF coaches.

Do we hold it against Shanahan as a coach that he let Petzing put up 47 against him late last year in a blow out loss? That he got humiliated in 20+ points losses multiple times that season? No, because his best players weren't on the field. I haven't watched the Cardinals play since the Bucs game, this is just a lost season no matter who the coach is.

Gannon is not a proven commodity and is probably gone, but I'm not holding this season against him. With the amount of injuries this year our team could have been coached by McVay with Shanahan as OC and Mike Macdonald as DC and still finished last in the division.

Uh those guys you are comparing have superbowl and proven track records. Gannon has - checks notes - three losing seasons. This comparison is insane.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

BRO THOSE GUYS WENT TO SUPER BOWLS! How do you not see the difference in credibility and track record here???

Borg

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Monti drafting so good his 2025 draft picks (Johnson and Burke) putting his 2024 draft picks (Melton and Elijah Jones) on the bench.

In an uncompetitive game.