The official Gannon/Monti/Petzing should be fired thread……

[Crimson Warrior]

So is never having a head coach with a tenure of longer than 6 years. The team is 105 years old and has had an astounding 43 different head coaches.

If JG hasn't lost the locker room, and if the team hasn't quit, I could see giving him one more year.

He's young and seems like the type that will learn from his mistakes. Kind of like Venables at OU.

The philosophy of the MO/JG regime seems to be an emphasis on defense first, which I think is the way to go.

 

[Dayman]

The philosophy of the MO/JG regime seems to be an emphasis on defense first, which I think is the way to go.

The defense is 25th in points and 20th in yards after devoting an entire offseason to that side of the ball.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I get what you are saying

But it's his responsibility to get the team working on all cylinders

All these mistake, missed blocks, poor game plans all fall back on him

I don't care how he feels, he needs to figure it out

I'm highly disappointed in him after all he has preached to see the team regress

This season has been so frustrating. Three consecutive losses on last second fields goals. Three consecutive losses after leading in Q4. The routed in the last two.

If we just could have won the SF and TEN games, and then split with IND and GB BHCF...

So I get the anger and disappointment.

If we were far far away from being competitive, okay, fine, hit the eject button on JG. I don't think that's where were at though, the last two games not withstanding.

 

[Chopper0080]

I’ll have to do a little study on how much additional cap space we can open up in 2026 if we can’t trade Kyler. Not enough for those three guys to get a lot of 2026 dollars without some additional trimming.

PJJ's hit is already 8.9 so his extension would only bump that a bit in 2026.

Williams and Wilson are both about 1.7. So the biggest hits are there. I think Wilson should be the easier signing depending on how Williams injuries are factored in.

In terms of cap space, before even considering June 1, Justin Jones creates 8.8 mil in space and Nichols creates 6 mil. Cutting Conner would create another 8 mil. They could extend Dalvin if they wanted to reduce his number. Even Brown can free up 5 mil. ADG 4.6.

There are some opportunities to free up space.

The big question is how to backfill those roster holes.

 

[Mulli]

Which Wilson are we talking about? Michael Wilson and Mack Wilson are both FAs next season.

Oh no, will be “too expensive for a rebuild”

 

[football karma]

PJJ's hit is already 8.9 so his extension would only bump that a bit in 2026.

Williams and Wilson are both about 1.7. So the biggest hits are there. I think Wilson should be the easier signing depending on how Williams injuries are factored in.

In terms of cap space, before even considering June 1, Justin Jones creates 8.8 mil in space and Nichols creates 6 mil. Cutting Conner would create another 8 mil. They could extend Dalvin if they wanted to reduce his number. Even Brown can free up 5 mil. ADG 4.6.

even if cut, Kyler frees up nearly $50mm in 2027 and 2028 each. Why does this matter?

most NFL contracts today are structured to make year 1 as small as possible and push money into the out years.

between the easy cuts noted above + moving on from Kyler, the team will have LOTS of cap space and flexibility to add players, extend young players, etc.

the question is Will they do it, and, Will they do it well.

 

[Proteus]

If JG hasn't lost the locker room, and if the team hasn't quit, I could see giving him one more year.

He's young and seems like the type that will learn from his mistakes. Kind of like Venables at OU.

The philosophy of the MO/JG regime seems to be an emphasis on defense first, which I think is the way to go.

The team has repeatedly played overly conservative on both offense and defense in the 4th quarter. That doesn't seem like learning to me.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Oh no, will be “too expensive for a rebuild”

I was wrong. They are not FAs until 2027.

 

[Mulli]

I was wrong. They are not FAs until 2027.

Too expensive because locker room

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I don’t think people understand how pissed off owners get seeing their team steamrolled in front of 75% opposing fans. Thats exactly how coaches get fired, I don’t care what Johnny Venerables has to say about it.

Seems like the solution would be to try and put together a cromulent staff/roster and try to actually win?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

i don't know what's in mikey's head

i do know ticket sales are dead

but he's still paying kingsbury same way he'll have to still pay murray so he might not be in a hurry

 

[phillycard]

If JG hasn't lost the locker room, and if the team hasn't quit, I could see giving him one more year.

He's young and seems like the type that will learn from his mistakes. Kind of like Venables at OU.

The philosophy of the MO/JG regime seems to be an emphasis on defense first, which I think is the way to go.

Oooph! His refusal to acknowledge his OC's craptastic performances week in and week out give me pause on this.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

i don't know what's in mikey's head

i do know ticket sales are dead

but he's still paying kingsbury same way he'll have to still pay murray so he might not be in a hurry

Isn't part of KK's salary off-set due to his compensation in Washington?

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

Isn't part of KK's salary off-set due to his compensation in Washington?

not enough to pay for that paradise valley mansion

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Isn't part of KK's salary off-set due to his compensation in Washington?

Nope. His guaranteed contract was simply converted to severance pay when he was fired. He gets every penny of his Cardinals money, plus what the Commanders are paying him as salary, according to every report I have seen.

 

[kerouac9]

Nope. His guaranteed contract was simply converted to severance pay when he was fired. He gets every penny of his Cardinals money, plus what the Commanders are paying him as salary, according to every report I have seen.

I haven’t ever seen that. Most sources like this one imply that the Cards keep paying Kingsbury and that most coach contracts contain offsets — which is why there’s a requirement that KK seeks other employment.

I’ve never seen anyone say he’s double-dipping.

 

[football karma]

Wasn’t really a block and the contact was within the 5 yard buffer. Ball was on the 9, contact at the 5.

the rule is within 1 yard of the LOS for legal blocks by receivers

 

[Metcalf Rules]

So is never having a head coach with a tenure of longer than 6 years. The team is 105 years old and has had an astounding 43 different head coaches.

What's crazy is that since 1969, the Steelers have had just three head coaches.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

What's crazy is that since 1969, the Steelers have had just three head coaches.

And they've won eight AFC Championships with six Super Bowl trophies during that time.

 

[AZCB34]

the rule is within 1 yard of the LOS for legal blocks by receivers

He wasn’t blocking unless I’m paying attention to the wrong dude

 

[daves]

He wasn’t blocking unless I’m paying attention to the wrong dude

Kittle is #85. He runs directly toward and into Simon, extends his arms, and shoves Simon back about 5 yards.

NFL Rulebook Article 4. "Other Prohibited Acts By The Offense":

Acts that are pass interference include:

Blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage by an offensive player prior to a pass

This is an insanely blatant illegal block by Kittle that wasn't called.

 

[Stout]

And they've won eight AFC Championships with six Super Bowl trophies during that time.

So you would compare JG and co with Tomlin, Cowher, and Noll? I certainly wouldn't.

 

[Mulli]

After three years, is there any phase of the game the team does well?

 

[tennis-player]

Michigan State University basketball has had two coaches in 50 years. Pittsburgh Steelers have had three coaches since 1969. Two very successful programs. All those coaches have had poor seasons.

That is extreme, but today’s sports fans demand immediate success, and maybe some patience would allow coaches to build a team.

 

[Proteus]

Michigan State University basketball has had two coaches in 50 years. Pittsburgh Steelers have had three coaches since 1969. Two very successful programs. All those coaches have had poor seasons.

That is extreme, but today’s sports fans demand immediate success, and maybe some patience would allow coaches to build a team.

The Steelers haven't had a losing season with Mike Tomlin as their head coach so far. That's 18 seasons in a row (2006 to 2024) and they're likely to finish with a .500+ record this season as well (they're currently 6-4).

JG is heading for his third losing season in 3 seasons as the Cards' head coach. If the Cards keep JG as head coach for next season, they're probably gonna have a losing record if Brissett or a rookie quarterback is their starting quarterback (I'm assuming the Cards move on from Murray in the off-season). How many seasons are people supposed to wait for their head coach to finally have a .500+ season (let alone make the playoffs)?

It should be noted that JG's record without Murray is worse than his record with Murray.