Your final 54 predictions

[BritCard]

Yes, it says 54 because these are the 54 players I think we would all probably whittle it down to and I can't decide which way they will go to get to 53.

QB (2) - Murray, McCoy
RB (4) - Edmonds, Connor, Benjamin, Ward
WR (7) - Hopkins, Green, Kirk, Moore, Isabella, Johnson, Dortch
TE (3) - Williams, Daniels, Travis (Strong possibility Travis is waived if they like someone who is cut)
OL (8) - Hump, Pugh, Hudson, Murray, Beechum, Jones, Garcia, Miles

DL (6) - Watt, Allen, Fotu, Lawrence, Philips, Peters
OLB (5) - Golden, Jones, Gardeck, Dimukeje, Kennard
ILB (5) - Collins, Simmons, Hicks, Vallejo, Turner
Safety (5) - Baker, J.Thompson, D.Thompson, Banjo, Washington
CBs (6) - Murphy, Alford, Butler, Wilson, Dennard, Gowan

ST (3) - Prater, Lee, Brewer

I only kept 8 O line because they can keep Sean Harlow on the PS and it would take multiple injuries for him to be needed as the 2nd string guys can cover multiple positions. No need to use a roster spot. Same for Streveler, nobody is claiming him unless there is a backup QB convention that gets hit by Al Qaeda so he's safe on the PS.

The options I see to get to 53 are,

Dortch - 7 WR's is high but they kept 7 before when one of them for a specialist and Dortch has looked good. Also both Moore and Kirk have a history of injuries so he might come in handy in the slot at some point.

Dimukeje - Edge guys with upside with coveted so I don't think they waive him for the PS and they normally keep 5 OLD on the 53. So I think he stays, but he's in the conversation.

Washington - He's a good ST guy and played well well given snaps on D but it's a toss up between a 5th safety or 6th CB.

Gowan - Only takes once team that liked him in the draft to claim him. Very raw but he has potential and looks hungry.

Dennard - The kind of cheap vet with lots of starting experience that rosters like but has missed time in camp with injury and hasn't started a PS game.

My feeling is that it will be between Washington, Gowan and Dennard. Or they may keep an extra O line and it could be 2 of them but that wouldn't be how I would do it.

 

[Proximo]

I think Winters makes the team and Gowan does not.

Gowan will be on the practice squad most likely, if he gets claimed no biggy since he has looked bad.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I think Isabella is as much on the bubble as Dortch

 

[BritCard]

I think Isabella is as much on the bubble as Dortch

Word from people around camp are the team really like him and he's safe

 

[Proximo]

Word from people around camp are the team really like him and he's safe

Yeah, I don't think Isabella is going anywhere. The fan hatred for him is overdone simply because of his draft position.

 

[Krangodnzr]

As much handwringing about this roster that I read, this shows that this team has enough talent this year.

I think that Dortch probably doesn't make it. I think he is the last guy off the roster.

If we are going off of preseason games (which is probably a much smaller factor admittedly) I think Miles shouldn't make the roster since Murray and Jones can also play tackle, and Beachum could slide to LT in a pinch.

Gowan is very much on the bubble; I think special teams is his way to make the team and we haven't see enough for any of us to make a judgement. Maybe the team has seen it in practice, but I based on what we have seen, I'd probably cut Gowan too.

 

[BritCard]

As much handwringing about this roster that I read, this shows that this team has enough talent this year.

I think that Dortch probably doesn't make it. I think he is the last guy off the roster.

If we are going off of preseason games (which is probably a much smaller factor admittedly) I think Miles shouldn't make the roster since Murray and Jones can also play tackle, and Beachum could slide to LT in a pinch.

Gowan is very much on the bubble; I think special teams is his way to make the team and we haven't see enough for any of us to make a judgement. Maybe the team has seen it in practice, but I based on what we have seen, I'd probably cut Gowan too.

I think specialist returner is often over looked by the Cardinals which is why I'd like Dortch to stay. Granted, he's often been returning against 2nd string ST units but he's looked capable.

We were 29th in punt return yards last year. 18th in KO return yards. We averaged 5 return yards per punt. Pats led with 15. The average was around 10.

If we can double from 5 yards to 10 yards average on every punt return that's a big difference considering the number of punts we face in a season. We faced 25 last year, the good defenses faced 35-40. If we can improve defense and punt return yards that's a big boost for the offense.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I think specialist returner is often over looked by the Cardinals which is why I'd like Dortch to stay. Granted, he's often been returning against 2nd string ST units but he's looked capable.

We were 29th in punt return yards last year. 18th in KO return yards. We averaged 5 return yards per punt. Pats led with 15. The average was around 10.

If we can double from 5 yards to 10 yards average on every punt return that's a big difference considering the number of punts we face in a season. We faced 25 last year, the good defenses faced 35-40. If we can improve defense and punt return yards that's a big boost for the offense.

I don't disagree your take at all, but I think the team is unlikely to keep seven receivers and I think the team is still willing to give Isabella more of a chance than Dortch. The team believes that Isabella can play both outside and in the slot, so there is positional versatility in their eyes.

I'd cut Isabella. He's more than shown that he isn't going to factor on offense and he hasn't exactly shown anything on special teams.

Punt returns can be a weapon, but for the majority of teams, just catching the ball and getting a few yards is good enough.

 

[juza76]

Yeah, I don't think Isabella is going anywhere. The fan hatred for him is overdone simply because of his draft position.

Production

 

[SoonerLou]

I would cut Ward to keep Dortch.

Risky having just 3 rbs, but I think Ward would make/stay on the practice squad.

Worst case scenario I think they'd use Moore at RB (Sproles type role) in a game if needed.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I would cut Ward to keep Dortch.

Risky having just 3 rbs, but I think Ward would make/stay on the practice squad.

Worst case scenario I think they'd use Moore at RB (Sproles type role) in a game if needed.

The Cardinals are pretty bullish on Ward. They said they thought last year that he wouldn't make it to the PS if they had cut him and I think they believe he has more potential as a regular RB than Eno has.

If it were Ward against receivers, I think 100% one of the receivers go since Ward is much more likely to play significant snaps on offense than Isabella or Dortch.

 

[gmabel830]

Would like to see Wiggins make it at Safety

Not sure you can keep 7 WRs if they offer little on special teams (outside of Dortch)

I think a back-end OL could be trade bait.

I think we’ll look for another TE via trade or cuts.

 

[SoonerLou]

The Cardinals are pretty bullish on Ward. They said they thought last year that he wouldn't make it to the PS if they had cut him and I think they believe he has more potential as a regular RB than Eno has.

If it were Ward against receivers, I think 100% one of the receivers go since Ward is much more likely to play significant snaps on offense than Isabella or Dortch.

I think Eno passed up Ward.

Dortch looks like he can play special teams as well. Also with Kirk/Moore being injury-prone guys I'd rather secure Dortch as another slot guy. I fear someone signs him if he's cut.

 

[Proximo]

Production

Yeah, I don't really buy this, because he has had very few opportunities to produce. He did have one game where he produced quite well actually.

 

[BritCard]

I think Eno passed up Ward.

Dortch looks like he can play special teams as well. Also with Kirk/Moore being injury-prone guys I'd rather secure Dortch as another slot guy. I fear someone signs him if he's cut.

FWIW Ward is ahead of Eno on latest depth chart

 

[Chopper0080]

Yes, it says 54 because these are the 54 players I think we would all probably whittle it down to and I can't decide which way they will go to get to 53.

QB (2) - Murray, McCoy
RB (4) - Edmonds, Connor, Benjamin, Ward
WR (7) - Hopkins, Green, Kirk, Moore, Isabella, Johnson, Dortch
TE (3) - Williams, Daniels, Travis (Strong possibility Travis is waived if they like someone who is cut)
OL (8) - Hump, Pugh, Hudson, Murray, Beechum, Jones, Garcia, Miles

DL (6) - Watt, Allen, Fotu, Lawrence, Philips, Peters
OLB (5) - Golden, Jones, Gardeck, Dimukeje, Kennard
ILB (5) - Collins, Simmons, Hicks, Vallejo, Turner
Safety (5) - Baker, J.Thompson, D.Thompson, Banjo, Washington
CBs (6) - Murphy, Alford, Butler, Wilson, Dennard, Gowan

ST (3) - Prater, Lee, Brewer

I only kept 8 O line because they can keep Sean Harlow on the PS and it would take multiple injuries for him to be needed as the 2nd string guys can cover multiple positions. No need to use a roster spot. Same for Streveler, nobody is claiming him unless there is a backup QB convention that gets hit by Al Qaeda so he's safe on the PS.

The options I see to get to 53 are,

Dortch - 7 WR's is high but they kept 7 before when one of them for a specialist and Dortch has looked good. Also both Moore and Kirk have a history of injuries so he might come in handy in the slot at some point.

Dimukeje - Edge guys with upside with coveted so I don't think they waive him for the PS and they normally keep 5 OLD on the 53. So I think he stays, but he's in the conversation.

Washington - He's a good ST guy and played well well given snaps on D but it's a toss up between a 5th safety or 6th CB.

Gowan - Only takes once team that liked him in the draft to claim him. Very raw but he has potential and looks hungry.

Dennard - The kind of cheap vet with lots of starting experience that rosters like but has missed time in camp with injury and hasn't started a PS game.

My feeling is that it will be between Washington, Gowan and Dennard. Or they may keep an extra O line and it could be 2 of them but that wouldn't be how I would do it.

Agree on Dortch and Dimukeje.

I think Harlow has a real shot.

Gowan, Washington, Dennard. In that order.

 

[Krangodnzr]

FWIW Ward is ahead of Eno on latest depth chart

I think Eno only insured his own roster spot. Ward is their guy.

I'm actually happy with the depth of the RB room. No top end starter, but none of the guys look like scrubs either.

 

[Stout]

Yeah, I don't really buy this, because he has had very few opportunities to produce. He did have one game where he produced quite well actually.

Oh, right, AI sucks because he simply hasn't gotten a chance to produce. Suuuure

 

[football karma]

Winters over Miles. Both Murray and Jones can also play tackle, so Miles is out.

I think its only 2 TEs and waiver wire scrounging.

Only six WRs with Dortch on the practice squad.

extra defensive lineman like Mauro wouldnt surprise me.

agree on Gowan. I wouldnt subject him to a waiver process.

Wiggins as S has a shot purely as a core STs

 

[BritCard]

I think Eno only insured his own roster spot. Ward is their guy.

I'm actually happy with the depth of the RB room. No top end starter, but none of the guys look like scrubs either.

Top end RBs are fools gold in my opinion. The Kamara's, CMC's, Henry's and peak DJ's of this world are great to watch but all those teams are done when those guys are injured.

Look at the teams who have won the Superbowl or made it there recently. I can't think of one with a bellcow RB. Tampa had a committee. KC won it with a committee. Eagles and Pats had committees. Give me a competent committee and a good run blocking O line.

 

[BritCard]

Agree on Dortch and Dimukeje.

I think Harlow has a real shot.

Gowan, Washington, Dennard. In that order.

I think Harlow has a shot and I did put him on the 53 but then when I considered the new PS rules and how deep he would be on the depth chart I figured they can easily stash him on the PS.

 

[CFLredzoned]

Top end RBs are fools gold in my opinion. The Kamara's, CMC's, Henry's and peak DJ's of this world are great to watch but all those teams are done when those guys are injured.

Look at the teams who have won the Superbowl or made it there recently. I can't think of one with a bellcow RB. Tampa had a committee. KC won it with a committee. Eagles and Pats had committees. Give me a competent committee and a good run blocking O line.

Yeah the Cardinals finally built the running back room the right way. Don't overpay one guy, but still have a a group you really like.

It's such a brutal position, it always seems to come down to the freshest legs and who needs it the most. Right now, Eno looks like that guy. It will be interesting to see how that evolves because someone will get injured and Conner worries me, the way he danced around on that one play instead of hitting the hole for 2 yards and a first.

 

[Stout]

Yeah the Cardinals finally built the running back room the right way. Don't overpay one guy, but still have a a group you really like.

It's such a brutal position, it always seems to come down to the freshest legs and who needs it the most. Right now, Eno looks like that guy. It will be interesting to see how that evolves because someone will get injured and Conner worries me, the way he danced around on that one play instead of hitting the hole for 2 yards and a first.

I disagree vehemently because I don't see a group I really like. At all. Keim also likes and is satisfied with the CB position, which I also view as a gross mistake.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I disagree vehemently because I don't see a group I really like. At all. Keim also likes and is satisfied with the CB position, which I also view as a gross mistake.

A CB room that has looked much better in the preseason...and I'm talking against the starters not the 3s.

 

[Cards_Campos]

I think specialist returner is often over looked by the Cardinals which is why I'd like Dortch to stay. Granted, he's often been returning against 2nd string ST units but he's looked capable.

We were 29th in punt return yards last year. 18th in KO return yards. We averaged 5 return yards per punt. Pats led with 15. The average was around 10.

If we can double from 5 yards to 10 yards average on every punt return that's a big difference considering the number of punts we face in a season. We faced 25 last year, the good defenses faced 35-40. If we can improve defense and punt return yards that's a big boost for the offense.

But this shows how over valued the punt return is. 5 yards is nothing really unless you get pinned at the 5. Returning the punt to the 31 instead of the 26 isn’t going to really make the game in my opinion. Now 10 yards in big if it is within the 20. Punters that can change field position is huge