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feel like Alt and Fash have the athleticism and feet to be superior LTs for a long time
Fuaga is more of a physical brawler
Fuaga is more of a physical brawler
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Lots of Good comments and Post IMHO if MHJ is there You take him if Not, look to move down quite a few teams will be looking to move up for a player and lastly we do not know yet where that 2nd 1st round is it could be inside the top 10 to 15 range in which you could feasibly take a top O or D lineman
You may be right, but Washington seems to be happy with Howell, Chicago might decide to stick with Fields, the Jets probably won't take a QB with Rodgers coming back next season, and the Giants would have to admit a huge mistake by taking a QB after signing Jones to a big extension just last year.
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daves, think you're right about the Jets and wrong about the Giants. Everyone in NY knows that they were wrong with the Jones contract. And, if I had to pick a trading partner for us with our 2nd or 3rd pick, I think it will be the Giants.
I'm trading back from 3 and picking up an extra 2nd this year and a future 1st minimum.
The value of that pick really depends on if it's for a QB or MHJ. If it's for a QB then it has more value. But minimum is a 2nd this year and a future first to move back 4-5 spots.
Then I'm drafting Alt or Fash. Impossible to predict the 2nd pick as anything can happen in the 18-20 picks before. If Newton is there I take Newton. Otherwise I probably go corner. But really depends who is around.
I wouldn't want to trade out of the top 8 ideally.
The value of that pick really depends on if it's for a QB or MHJ. If it's for a QB then it has more value. But minimum is a 2nd this year and a future first to move back 4-5 spots.
Then I'm drafting Alt or Fash. Impossible to predict the 2nd pick as anything can happen in the 18-20 picks before. If Newton is there I take Newton. Otherwise I probably go corner. But really depends who is around.
I wouldn't want to trade out of the top 8 ideally.
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I seem to remember a certain team that swore that a young QB that was drafted early one year and turned around and drafted another one with the 1st pick so You never can tell until Goodell announces the pick
You're absolutely right. I forgot about the Pats
I think the Daniel Jones ship has sailed in New York ( though I could definitely be wrong ), especially since every other QB (Except Jones) makes that team look at least half way functional.
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I agree Sadly this team isnt "Just One Player Away" from contention if They Were then Go MHJ, But They Simply Arent Build the Trenches 1st then go for the Glory Boys No Qb has ever completed a Pass with a D lineman on Top Of Him to My Knowledge
BACH
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That is the luxury of the 2nd 1st rounders gives. You can take the best player in the draft AND draft either one of the 3 top OT or top 2 Edge players.
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Maybe but this is the Cardinals we are talking about here They have a long history for Montie and the Crew to overcome of Awful Draft decisions
BACH
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You cannot base Monti's skills on Keim. Using that logic MHJ is a slam dunk at #3, because a WR at #3 was the most succesful pick for this franchise while in AZ
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Heavens The Cards Draft Misses Goes Back as Far as I remember Steve Little Clyde Duncan Anthony Bell all 1st Round Picks the Cards Bust 1st Round Picks are Legendary Not mention Bryant Johnson and Calvin Pace
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Monti's first draft is still an open question but it might turn out ok..
Johnson Jr - looks like a long term starter if not a dominant player
Ojulari - could be good? Not there yet. He has flashed at least.
Garrett Williams Jr. - IDK about you guys, but I think he could be the best player from this draft. Like what I see so far.
Wilson - we all liked him when he had the chance to make plays. Looks like an NFL player to me.
Gaines ll - he got hurt, missed season. Too bad
Tune - I wasn't impressed in preseason and even less impressed after his one game.
Pappoe - hasn't made an impression, but he is at least on special teams.
Clark - I really like what I have seen from this kid. I think he has got something. One highlight of this season for me was how he competed against CeeDee Lamb.
Stills jr - this kid is a baller. He will be part of the future going forward.
At least that is how I see it. Other than the Gaines-Tune-Pappoe stretch, it looks to be potentially an excellent draft in terms of long term contributors. The only player I have given up on is Tune and I know that isn't fair yet
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I was impressed with Pappoe in his intensity at the Steelers game. It may sound silly but he was constantly staying warm on the sidelines, and I appreciated that. He knows his role is on special teams and he was constantly jogging, on the bike, stretching, staying ready at every moment. No one else was doing this.
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Thanks for that. This is the type of thing you can see only by being at the game. It means something I think.
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For those of you who don’t recognize the Clyde Duncan reference Dollar Bill came up with a great idea. Having his usual early draft pick he direct the GM to find a player who would sign for a relatively low amount. Incredibly once they selected him Duncan changed his mind leading to a contract dispute. They finally signed him and he promptly dislocated his shoulder. He was dogged by questions about his attitude. He ended his season on the bench with a total of 4 receptions. The next year he was released. He did sign with another team but never played again in the NFL. As a result of this fiasco the NFL made it illegal to negotiate with a player in advance of the draft other than with the top pick.
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Latham was described by Baumgardner, from the Athletic,
as the best pure ROT in the draft.
as the best pure ROT in the draft.
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Yep there were a Lot if Very questionable picks Dollar Bill forced on the GM over the Years
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an awful draft decision would be passing on Harrison.
Washington - Howell has been fairly good so far. I think whoever ends up as the new HC will determine a long ways which direction they go at QB.
Chicago - The enigma, Fields. Actually his completion and TD/INT rate has gotten a little better each year so the powers that be need to decide if this trend will continue or has he reached his peak. Will he ever be better than he is now? His progress has been painfully slow.
Las Vegas - I think there is no doubt they will be looking for a QB in the 2024 draft.
N.Y Jets - With Rogers coming back next season, do they add some pieces like a MJH to take that shot at a SB or do they draft for the future. Their defense will certainly carry them in some games and a decent to good offense could be enough with Rogers. What does Rogers have left in the tank?
N.Y Giants - Why does this feel like Eli Manning, Act 2? You look at Manning's career and Jones seems to be following the same trajectory. I think they look to upgrade their WR spots and Oline and not draft a QB.
NE - This is a team that seems ready to draft a QB. I just don't see how they don't move forward in a different direction, especially if Belichick leaves.
Dark horses:
Minnesota - Cousins age and recent injury as well as becoming a FA leaves them QB empty. Cousins will be 36 by the start of next season coming off a major injury. How do you justify bringing him back? I don't see how they would not be be looking to trade up to grab a QB. The offensive pieces are in place there for a rookie to find success.
Atlanta - Ridder hasn't done anything to impress that he is the long term future there.
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Remember what they say (at least in Canada), the Monti's always get their man. Still remember Sgt. Preston and his dog, King.
