No I know for sure I always thought JJ Watt got a lot of attention for dominating the crap teams in his division. I know it is irrational but I can't help it. I have seen way more JJ Watt commercials that Aaron Donald.
1st wave of Free Agency (most likely) done - now what?
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I certainly felt he was a big mouth before he came here, but he was the best leader we've had in a long time:No I know for sure I always thought JJ Watt got a lot of attention for dominating the crap teams in his division. I know it is irrational but I can't help it. I have seen way more JJ Watt commercials that Aaron Donald.
J.J. Watt Calls Cardinals' Season a 'Massive Failure' After Playoff Loss to Rams
Arizona Cardinals defensive end J.J. Watt didn't mince words following Monday's 34-11 loss to the Los Angeles Rams in the NFC Wild Card Round. "It was a...
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He was absolutely right - we were the best team in the league with Watt and Kyler cooking. The season frittering out like it did was a big failure, but it certainly wasn't due to his lack of effort, especially fighting back from injury to play in that shambolic playoff game.
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I certainly felt he was a big mouth before he came here, but he was the best leader we've had in a long time:
J.J. Watt Calls Cardinals' Season a 'Massive Failure' After Playoff Loss to Rams
Arizona Cardinals defensive end J.J. Watt didn't mince words following Monday's 34-11 loss to the Los Angeles Rams in the NFC Wild Card Round. "It was a...
He was absolutely right - we were the best team in the league with Watt and Kyler cooking. The season frittering out like it did was a big failure, but it certainly wasn't due to his lack of effort, especially fighting back from injury to play in that shambolic playoff game.
Dunno. I remember seeing him eating breakfast in the meeting room on Hard Knocks. Not a winning behavior. Coach Gannon would give him a hard pass.
Kyler takes heat if he says the exact same thing.I certainly felt he was a big mouth before he came here, but he was the best leader we've had in a long time:
J.J. Watt Calls Cardinals' Season a 'Massive Failure' After Playoff Loss to Rams
Arizona Cardinals defensive end J.J. Watt didn't mince words following Monday's 34-11 loss to the Los Angeles Rams in the NFC Wild Card Round. "It was a...
He was absolutely right - we were the best team in the league with Watt and Kyler cooking. The season frittering out like it did was a big failure, but it certainly wasn't due to his lack of effort, especially fighting back from injury to play in that shambolic playoff game.
Fine with me. That is "how you build a winning culture"
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What is your point here? That...Monti shouldn't be trusted to spend the cap money? That Monti will be as bad as Keim?
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Keim is bad.
We are cheap.
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So that’s super fun.
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Hey - what about that one dude who had us/Commanders as the kings of FA?
A C seems more than reasonable - we've added a bunch of questionable NFL starters without adding ANYONE above average.
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Another publication in the thread had us at 7th.
I'd probably put us in the teens somewhere.
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Sadly, a bunch of questionable NFL starters is a big improvement for this team.Hey - what about that one dude who had us/Commanders as the kings of FA?
A C seems more than reasonable - we've added a bunch of questionable NFL starters without adding ANYONE above average.
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Questionable NFL starters? Nicholas, Jones, Williams, and SMB are not "questionable" NFL starters. That's lion's share of the free agents signed. Mack Wilson? Questionable for sure, but he had a good amount of success as spot player.Hey - what about that one dude who had us/Commanders as the kings of FA?
A C seems more than reasonable - we've added a bunch of questionable NFL starters without adding ANYONE above average.
None are stars, but it's patently absurd to say they are questionable starters.
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They are by any standard questionable NFL starters - average at very best. This is not my opinion - see what Barnwell said, who knows a hell of a lot more than you or I...average at best might be too kind.
here's how Barnwell has our acquisitions listed:
Nichols - backup likely to earn guaranteed money
Murphy Bunting -backup likely to earn roster spot
Jones - borderline starter/high end backup
Wilson - backup likely to earn guaranteed money
All questionable starters. Take the Cards Kool-aid colored glasses off and face reality. The needle - it ain't moving. The only reason most of these guys will be an improvement on the dreck we were putting out last year is by contrast.
That is Barnwell for you. Why is he an expert? What has he done?
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Barnwell said it! Must be gospel then!
Cool story. All of those guys have started a fair share of NFL games.
Justin Jones numbers last year were pretty close to Zach Allen, a guy we lost who you have whined about incessantly all year. And he's cheaper.
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So, once? Let's put it this way, how many times has it worked against the Cards? Paying top price for top talent didn't really work for Keim. We never got those year in and year out playoff runs. Time to try a different tactic. I am not arguing with you @Ouchie-Z-Clown and thanks for answering. Just in general making the point we should try a different strategy and see if that works.
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He knows a hell of a lot more than you, I know that to be true. I'd love for you to provide any evidence that I'm wrong, something other than attacking the source.
What is your point? Just because they have started a fair share of games (mostly on bad teams) doesn't make them legit NFL starters.
You thinking Justin Jones is the same as a Zach Allen shows how worthless this conversation is with you. Zach Allen is a decent NFL starter with potential. Justin Jones is a rotation body. These aren't the same.
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A C says to me average. Which means the guys are NOT questionable. Just average. That's a leg up in talent from what we have been fielding, imho.Hey - what about that one dude who had us/Commanders as the kings of FA?
A C seems more than reasonable - we've added a bunch of questionable NFL starters without adding ANYONE above average.
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It's literally the worst grade they've given.
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Note to self: PFF isn't anywhere near the final word on anything football-related.
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Barnwell's assessment vs that of Monti, Sears, Cards scouts and coaches...
Who to believe, who to trust...
I know who gets my vote.
Z. Allen (26)
17 games: Snap count: 911 - PD: 1 - Sacks: 5 - Tackles: 60 (27/33) - TFL: 8 - QB hits: 24 - Press: 27
J. Jones (27) - (172 FEWER snaps)
17 games: Snap count 739 - PD: 4 - Sacks: 4.5 - Tackles: 49 (29/20) - TFL: 10 - QB hits: 17 - Press: 22
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