Too early to talk free agency?

[Stout]

I have a feeling that Monti is not a big spender in free agency. I think there are certain types of players that he and Gannon want that fit into their scheme and they are not the big name players. He also appears to want to build through he draft. Most on this board kind of knew what players Keim was after but Monti is very close lipped on his wants and needs. Very hard to predict their direction in free agency.

Well, if he repeats last FA he's not very bright, so here's hoping it was all a precautionary cap maneuver.

 

[Chopper0080]

I have a feeling that Monti is not a big spender in free agency. I think there are certain types of players that he and Gannon want that fit into their scheme and they are not the big name players. He also appears to want to build through he draft. Most on this board kind of knew what players Keim was after but Monti is very close lipped on his wants and needs. Very hard to predict their direction in free agency.

Limiting yourself that way is a great way to get fired. Hope you are wrong.

 

[slanidrac16]

Limiting yourself that way is a great way to get fired. Hope you are wrong.

I want to see a serious “ get after it” this off season. I pray we don’t totally depend on the draft.I don’t expect we are going to sign 4-5 big name free agents, but we have to do more than this year.
I would also like to believe the scouting department has a pretty good idea of what group of players will be available when we are on the clock.

 

[PJ1]

Limiting yourself that way is a great way to get fired. Hope you are wrong.

Agreed. Losing now is one thing. Field a bad team next year and people will tell you to shove your plan up your arse…

 

[BirdGangThing]

I have a feeling that Monti is not a big spender in free agency. I think there are certain types of players that he and Gannon want that fit into their scheme and they are not the big name players. He also appears to want to build through he draft. Most on this board kind of knew what players Keim was after but Monti is very close lipped on his wants and needs. Very hard to predict their direction in free agency.

Why would we want to be predictable heading into free agency?

 

[slanidrac16]

If we didn’t totally understand Monti’s plan I believe most of us accepted it and was willing to see how things unfolded. We understood the massive amount of holes there were to fill on this roster and it wasn’t going to be fixed in one year. Add to that a new and very young staff and any level headed fan would take a wait and see approach.

It’s hard to say a 3-10 team is “doing okay” but somehow it feels that way to me. It appears this staff is competent. The free agents signed have shown value and the draft seems to be pretty good. We have been competitive for some stretches at time.

But 2024 is coming up and we are going to expect bigger steps. I’ll go as far as saying most of us expect enough improvements to this roster to compete for a playoff spot next year. All you have to do for that is play .500 ball. That is not unfair expectations.

 

[Harry]

Forget Connor Williams. He tore his ACL.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Forget Connor Williams. He tore his ACL.

that is BRUTAL for that guy. Just brutal

 

[MadCardDisease]

While it's too early to talk about other teams FAs, it's not too early to talk about who the Cardinals should re-sign from their own roster before the FA period opens.

Who should the Cardinals try to sign before FA from their list of soon to be FAs???

WR Marquis Brown
CB Antonio Hamilton
RT Elijah Wilkinson
LB Josh Woods
NT Leki Fotu
LB Zeke Turner
TE Geoff Swaim
C/G Trystan Colon
DE Carlos Watkins
NT Kevin Strong
CB Rashad Fenton
DE LJ Collier
LB Krys Barnes
LB Jesse Luketa
WR Greg Dortch
DE Jonathan Ledbetter
P Blake Gillikin
RB Marlon Mack
LS Aaron Brewer

 

[MadCardDisease]

While it's too early to talk about other teams FAs, it's not too early to talk about who the Cardinals should re-sign from their own roster before the FA period opens.

Who should the Cardinals try to sign before FA from their list of soon to be FAs???

WR Marquis Brown
CB Antonio Hamilton
RT Elijah Wilkinson
LB Josh Woods
NT Leki Fotu
LB Zeke Turner
TE Geoff Swaim
C/G Trystan Colon
DE Carlos Watkins
NT Kevin Strong
CB Rashad Fenton
DE LJ Collier
LB Krys Barnes
LB Jesse Luketa
WR Greg Dortch
DE Jonathan Ledbetter
P Blake Gillikin
RB Marlon Mack
LS Aaron Brewer

So I'm going with the following list of guys to Re-Sign before FA hits:

LB Josh Woods
NT Leki Fotu
TE Geoff Swaim
DE Carlos Watkins
NT Kevin Strong
WR Greg Dortch
DE Jonathan Ledbetter
P Blake Gillikin
RB Marlon Mack
LS Aaron Brewer

 

[Stout]

While it's too early to talk about other teams FAs, it's not too early to talk about who the Cardinals should re-sign from their own roster before the FA period opens.

Who should the Cardinals try to sign before FA from their list of soon to be FAs???

WR Marquis Brown
CB Antonio Hamilton
RT Elijah Wilkinson
LB Josh Woods
NT Leki Fotu
LB Zeke Turner
TE Geoff Swaim
C/G Trystan Colon
DE Carlos Watkins
NT Kevin Strong
CB Rashad Fenton
DE LJ Collier
LB Krys Barnes
LB Jesse Luketa
WR Greg Dortch
DE Jonathan Ledbetter
P Blake Gillikin
RB Marlon Mack
LS Aaron Brewer

Woof, not much there.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Woof, not much there.

You are from Pennsylvania so you get a pass.

 

[Harry]

While it's too early to talk about other teams FAs, it's not too early to talk about who the Cardinals should re-sign from their own roster before the FA period opens.

Who should the Cardinals try to sign before FA from their list of soon to be FAs???

WR Marquis Brown
CB Antonio Hamilton
RT Elijah Wilkinson
LB Josh Woods
NT Leki Fotu
LB Zeke Turner
TE Geoff Swaim
C/G Trystan Colon
DE Carlos Watkins
NT Kevin Strong
CB Rashad Fenton
DE LJ Collier
LB Krys Barnes
LB Jesse Luketa
WR Greg Dortch
DE Jonathan Ledbetter
P Blake Gillikin
RB Marlon Mack
LS Aaron Brewer

Hamilton
Woods
Swaim
Strong
Collier
Luteka
Dortch
Gillikin
Brewer

 

[Yuma]

Resign some guys plus 11 draft picks (so far) who knows?

 

[kerouac9]

Who should the Cardinals try to sign before FA from their list of soon to be FAs???

Every one of these guys except for Hollywood will be available deep into free agency. No rush on any of them unless they want to sign another one-year, $1 million contract and renew their lease.

 

[Cardiac]

Hamilton
Woods
Swaim
Strong
Collier
Luteka
Dortch
Gillikin
Brewer

Why not Ledbetter?

 

[BACH]

So I'm going with the following list of guys to Re-Sign before FA hits:

LB Josh Woods
NT Leki Fotu
TE Geoff Swaim
DE Carlos Watkins
NT Kevin Strong
WR Greg Dortch
DE Jonathan Ledbetter
P Blake Gillikin
RB Marlon Mack
LS Aaron Brewer

Only ones I would prioritize early in this list is Ledbetter, Dortch and Fotu. None of Them Big players, But solid rotational players. Would be Very happy with Dortch as 4th WR, ledbetter as 3rd DE and Fotu as 2nd NT

 

[JohnnyCakes]

LB Josh Woods
NT Leki Fotu


C/G Trystan Colon

NT Kevin Strong


WR Greg Dortch
DE Jonathan Ledbetter
P Blake Gillikin

LS Aaron Brewer

 

[cardpa]

LB Josh Woods
DE LJ Collier
LB Krys Barnes
LB Jesse Luketa
WR Greg Dortch
DE Jonathan Ledbetter
P Blake Gillikin
LS Aaron Brewer

 

[MadCardDisease]

Every one of these guys except for Hollywood will be available deep into free agency. No rush on any of them unless they want to sign another one-year, $1 million contract and renew their lease.

I'm sure some of them will be available late and for low price contracts.

However I do really like Josh Woods paired with Kyzir White at ILB. So I would definitely try and lock up Woods prior to FA opening up. Might as well lock up your special teamers (Gillikin, Brewer) while you can so that is one less thing to worry about. I also like Carlos Watkins as a rotational guy at DE even though we didn't get to see much of him due to the biceps injury.

The others that I have listed to keep (Fotu, Swaim, Strong, Ledbetter, Dorch, Mack) I wouldn't lose sleep over if they got picked up by another team but I would still try and sign them to start filling out the 90 man roster.

 

[kerouac9]

I'm sure some of them will be available late and for low price contracts.

However I do really like Josh Woods paired with Kyzir White at ILB. So I would definitely try and lock up Woods prior to FA opening up. Might as well lock up your special teamers (Gillikin, Brewer) while you can so that is one less thing to worry about. I also like Carlos Watkins as a rotational guy at DE even though we didn't get to see much of him due to the biceps injury.

The others that I have listed to keep (Fotu, Swaim, Strong, Ledbetter, Dorch, Mack) I wouldn't lose sleep over if they got picked up by another team but I would still try and sign them to start filling out the 90 man roster.

Every name you mention is replacement-level or worse. If they're willing to sign the 1-year, $1 million deal right now, I'm all for it. I wouldn't waste 15 minutes negotiating with any of these guys.

 

[football karma]

2024 NFL Free Agent Rankings: Top 200 players set to enter free agency | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

We look at the 200 best players set to hit the free-agent market this offseason with free agency still months away.

www.pff.com

my advice in reading this and setting your expectations for the Cards: start from the bottom and work your way up

 

[MadCardDisease]

Every name you mention is replacement-level or worse. If they're willing to sign the 1-year, $1 million deal right now, I'm all for it. I wouldn't waste 15 minutes negotiating with any of these guys.

Yeah I agree with that for everyone except Woods. I would lock him up and I don't think it would cost that much money. Maybe $3-4M per year.

 

[kerouac9]

Yeah I agree with that for everyone except Woods. I would lock him up and I don't think it would cost that much money. Maybe $3-4M per year.

I guess. Seems like a lot for a guy who only plays 60% of the defensive downs, doesn't make plays, and doesn't play special teams (only 28 special teams snaps this year). Are you gonna pay him more than Dennis Gardeck ($2.4 million) and James Conner ($3.7 million)?

I guess you're hedging the risk that the third-round draft choice you invest at the position comes along slowly or Owen Pappoe is only a special teams player.

 

[oaken1]

I'm sure some of them will be available late and for low price contracts.

However I do really like Josh Woods paired with Kyzir White at ILB. So I would definitely try and lock up Woods prior to FA opening up. Might as well lock up your special teamers (Gillikin, Brewer) while you can so that is one less thing to worry about. I also like Carlos Watkins as a rotational guy at DE even though we didn't get to see much of him due to the biceps injury.

The others that I have listed to keep (Fotu, Swaim, Strong, Ledbetter, Dorch, Mack) I wouldn't lose sleep over if they got picked up by another team but I would still try and sign them to start filling out the 90 man roster.

Leki has proven he only produces in a contract year...and not much at that...might be the system...so I would keep him in a contract year and only offer him a 1 season deal...with hollow promises that a longer deal will happen if he continues to show growth.
We all like Dortch...but I think it's Dortch or Hollywood as I think they are looking to get bigger at WR and Moore is still under contract. Hollywood is a bit more talented but Greg is more reliable and more elusive... kinda think a healthy Wilson and a draft pick can hold down the outside with Dortch in the slot and Rondale doing double duty as WR4 and change of pace RB... Hollywood ain't gonna wanna drop to slot receiver imo...guess we will see how much input kyler has with how it plays out.