1st wave of Free Agency (most likely) done - now what?

[ASUCHRIS]

Man this isn't the win you think it is Allen was paid like 10 times as much and produced a tiny bit more stats. Jones produced nearly what Allen and he's still paid less!

Zach Allen produced the 2nd most pressures from his position. The fact that you think these two things are the same is hilarious.

 

[kerouac9]

Man this isn't the win you think it is Allen was paid like 10 times as much and produced a tiny bit more stats. Jones produced nearly what Allen and he's still paid less!

I always forget you get extra wins at the end of the season for cost efficiency

 

[Krangodnzr]

I always forget you get extra wins at the end of the season for cost efficiency

Hey you win...Zach Allen has a higher Madden rating.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Zach Allen produced the 2nd most pressures from his position. The fact that you think these two things are the same is hilarious.

Did you get this from PFF too?

 

[BACH]

Zach Allen produced the 2nd most pressures from his position. The fact that you think these two things are the same is hilarious.

But what is the relevance? You are comparing a 3T DT to a 5T DT. Your comparison is just as much off

 

[iLLmatiC]

God we’re arguing about Zach Allen and Justin Jones. I’m tired of being a terrible franchise.

 

[Krangodnzr]

God we’re arguing about Zach Allen and Justin Jones. I’m tired of being a terrible franchise.

I remember the days of Eric Swann..

 

[Yuma]

I remember the days of Eric Swann..

Anyone ever meet that guy? He was ENORMOUS!

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Did you get this from PFF too?

It doesn't matter where the stat comes from Krang! It's neutral data - although you did manage to find a way to attack it, so that's kind of impressive in it's own right.

 

[Krangodnzr]

It doesn't matter where the stat comes from Krang! It's neutral data - although you did manage to find a way to attack it, so that's kind of impressive in it's own right.

It does matter! Data isn't neutral.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

It does matter! Data isn't neutral.

You are delusional. The # of QB hurries IS NEUTRAL DATA, unless for some bizzaro reason you think that the NFL is conspiring to prop up Zach Allen. This is just getting beyond absurd, I need to stop responding.

 

[MadCardDisease]

You are delusional. The # of QB hurries IS NEUTRAL DATA, unless for some bizzaro reason you think that the NFL is conspiring to prop up Zach Allen. This is just getting beyond absurd, I need to stop responding.

Does the NFL report QB Hurries as a stat?

 

[Krangodnzr]

You are delusional. The # of QB hurries IS NEUTRAL DATA, unless for some bizzaro reason you think that the NFL is conspiring to prop up Zach Allen. This is just getting beyond absurd, I need to stop responding.

Now resorting to personal attacks calling me "delusional"

You obviously have a very poor grasp on this topic. A whole bunch of different groups and services chart sacks, pressures, knockdowns, etc.

PFF gives Zach Allen credit for seven sacks, while everyone else gives him credit for 4.5.

 

[Mulli]

Now resorting to personal attacks calling me "delusional"

You obviously have a very poor grasp on this topic. A whole bunch of different groups and services chart sacks, pressures, knockdowns, etc.

PFF gives Zach Allen credit for seven sacks, while everyone else gives him credit for 4.5.

Hold on a second! Is that true?

 

[MadCardDisease]

Hold on a second! Is that true?

No.

The NFL has the official stats and give him 5:

NFL.com | Official Site of the National Football League

The official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more.

www.nfl.com

 

[Krangodnzr]

No.

The NFL has the official stats and give him 5:

NFL.com | Official Site of the National Football League

The official source for NFL news, video highlights, fantasy football, game-day coverage, schedules, stats, scores and more.

www.nfl.com

4.5 or 5, close enough, I can't remember everything with 100% accuracy. PFF credits him with 7.

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[Mulli]

FRIENDS!

PFF grades:
Zach Allen is 71.9
BJ Ojulari is 64.8

 

[Krangodnzr]

FRIENDS!

PFF grades:
Zach Allen is 71.9
BJ Ojulari is 64.8

Silliness. While I think BJ can become a player, he was nowhere close to a solid NFL player.

Chandler Jones PFF grade during his prime years was sometimes in the 60s!

 

[Mulli]

Silliness. While I think BJ can become a player, he was nowhere close to a solid NFL player.

Chandler Jones PFF grade during his prime years was sometimes in the 60s!

Can't argue this the science here though.

Just kidding. Just kidding.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Can't argue this the science here though.

Just kidding. Just kidding.

I used to be a PFF guy until I started seeing that even during the Cardinals best seasons, most of their best players had scores in the 60s.

How do you win 10, 11, and 13 games with only average players?

They also don't add weight to their scores. A pass rusher who only rushes the passer 50 times in a season can have a 90 grade and based on their litmus, that's essentially an All Pro.

 

[bankybruce]

Free agency doesn't close until Jadveon Clowney signs his one-year deal.

Not might be close though! Wasn't expecting this so soon!

Jordan Schultz (@jordanschultz) on Threads

Following Jadeveon Clowney’s visit with the Jets, he and the organization have remained in constant contact, with one source describing New York as “highly motivated” to try and secure a deal with Clowney. I’m told both the Panthers and Ravens remain interested in him as well, after his...

www.threads.net

 

[phillycard]

My bad. He transfered from liberty to Louisville.

Still stand by my statement. You Cannot expect a late rounder to be NFL ready by Day 1

It can happen though. Not a regular occurrence but it's happened for certain guys.

 

[Mulli]

It can happen though. Not a regular occurrence but it's happened for certain guys.

What if they have high levels of moxie?

 

[cardsfanmd]

What if they have high levels of moxie?

It helps but needs to be paired with them taking this ish serious.

 

[Mulli]

It helps but needs to be paired with them taking this ish serious.

Yes, they need to be football players who makes plays.