Booker Question

[Germz249]

Thirteen. Gonna leave this right here.

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Lol 4 of the 15 was on the Suns roster last year

 

[JCSunsfan]

Lol 4 of the 15 was on the Suns roster last year

If we could go back in time and tell our 2015 selves that we would have Kaminski, Booker, Payne on our roster and trade Oubre for CP3 and that was how we were going to get to the WCF. No one would have believed it.

We were so into the draft back in those days, that bit of knowledge would have been mind-blowing.

 

[Hoop Head]

If we could go back in time and tell our 2015 selves that we would have Kaminski, Booker, Payne on our roster and trade Oubre for CP3 and that was how we were going to get to the WCF. No one would have believed it.

We were so into the draft back in those days, that bit of knowledge would have been mind-blowing.

If we could go back and say wed have the best lotto pick from that draft, no one would believe it. No one would believe it in 2016 or 17 either. Towns is the next best but he's empty stats. I wouldn't trade Book for anyone else on that list and I'm not just saying that as a Suns fan. The rest of it has turned out rather underwhelming.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If we could go back and say wed have the best lotto pick from that draft, no one would believe it. No one would believe it in 2016 or 17 either. Towns is the next best but he's empty stats. I wouldn't trade Book for anyone else on that list and I'm not just saying that as a Suns fan. The rest of it has turned out rather underwhelming.

After years of people calling book empty stats I think I’m wary of saying that about other players who have been stuck on inept teams.

 

[SirStefan32]

After years of people calling book empty stats I think I’m wary of saying that about other players who have been stuck on inept teams.

Oh wow, I actually never thought about it that way. That is a really good point!

 

[SunsTzu]

After years of people calling book empty stats I think I’m wary of saying that about other players who have been stuck on inept teams.

KAT is an elite talent, the real unicorn. My only problem with with him(other than injury concerns) is his defense. My feeling is he is capable of being a lot better than what he's shown but if he isn't then having a big who is sub-par on that end of the court is an absolute killer.

 

[AzStevenCal]

After years of people calling book empty stats I think I’m wary of saying that about other players who have been stuck on inept teams.

Yeah I despise the "empty stats" label even though I've used it myself a few times. There has to be a better way to make the point that a player doesn't help his team quite as much as his counting stats would suggest. Especially since fans tend to lose sight that this is a team game and if an "empty stats" player scores 30 points per game and his team still loses, that player probably isn't the reason the team keeps losing.

 

[Hoop Head]

There's a really good article talk about "empty stat" players on ESPN, unfortunately its an insider article. Worth checking out if you can.

Espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31683232/nba-playoffs-2021-devin-booker-trae-young-empty-stats-fallacy

 

[leclerc]

KAT is an elite talent, the real unicorn. My only problem with with him(other than injury concerns) is his defense. My feeling is he is capable of being a lot better than what he's shown but if he isn't then having a big who is sub-par on that end of the court is an absolute killer.

I'm not that smitten with KAT. To me he seems slow and lazy. I have higher hopes for DA

 

[Dr. Jones]

My Booker question: Who is going to make the Booker thread similar to the old Anquan thread?

#WeNeedIt

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

My Booker question: Who is going to make the Booker thread similar to the old Anquan thread?

#WeNeedIt

It’s too late for that. The genius of the Quan thread is that it began before any of his feats of greatness.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Heard a crazy stat this morning... Booker scored or assisted on 43 of the Suns last 50 points in game 1 vs the Clippers!

 

[JCSunsfan]

How about this one. Not about Book though. Ben Simmons missed more free throws in the playoffs this year than Steve Nash missed in his entire career.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

How about this one. Not about Book though. Ben Simmons missed more free throws in the playoffs this year than Steve Nash missed in his entire career.

Wow that can't be right

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Nash regular season missed 324 FTs total

Nash playoffs missed 44 FTs

Simmons missed 91 FTs this series

So career no but playoffs yes

 

[1tinsoldier]

i don't mind that Booker missed a lot of shots last game
i'm content that he took what the defense gave him
and that Monty called the final 2 plays for Bridges and Ayton
instead of the usual Booker heave (with us down by 1).
we made 1 of 2 for 50%. better than what we get from Booker ball

Booker has improved in the areas i've been critical of.
he's playing more team ball, forcing things less
(but still needs to reduce his turnovers)

a couple of weeks ago i said that Booker elevated to a top 10 player

this thread's original question compared Booker to Kobe
Kobe never got control of his ego and it hurt his teams

at this point i'd take Booker on my team over Kobe

 

[Covert Rain]

If you ask most teams if their star has an off night and still scores 20? Pretty much all of them would take that in a heartbeat.

 

[1tinsoldier]

btw
we won a western conference playoff game by 1 point
(which could play out to be the season killer for the Clips)

anyone still think it's ok to get a technical foul in the playoffs?

(word to Crowder: the refs are watching you closer than ever)

 

[Covert Rain]

btw
we won a western conference playoff game by 1 point
(which could play out to be the season killer for the Clips)

anyone still think it's ok to get a technical foul in the playoffs?

(word to Crowder: the refs are watching you closer than ever)

It's seven before suspension right? How many does he have?

 

[Hoop Head]

It's seven before suspension right? How many does he have?

7 for suspension and he's at 5.

 

[Cheesebeef]

7 for suspension and he's at 5.

that ain't good.

 

[Finito]

KAT is an elite talent, the real unicorn. My only problem with with him(other than injury concerns) is his defense. My feeling is he is capable of being a lot better than what he's shown but if he isn't then having a big who is sub-par on that end of the court is an absolute killer.

but he’s never been asked to play defense. Look at Booker and Ayton the knock on both those guys was defense and they’ve made huge strides under Monty

 

[1tinsoldier]

indeed, there could be as many as 12 games left.
what's the chance of Crowder not getting more than 1 more technical?

 

[Ronin]

indeed, there could be as many as 12 games left.
what's the chance of Crowder not getting more than 1 more technical?

Not good. He always seems to be in the middle of things. Unintended or not.

 

[AzStevenCal]

but he’s never been asked to play defense. Look at Booker and Ayton the knock on both those guys was defense and they’ve made huge strides under Monty

Tom Thibodeau coached Kat for 3 seasons. I'd be shocked if he didn't ask him to play some defense.