Prejudiced Against Kyler Murray?

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But his running adds a dynamic that differentiates him from every other QB. It's not like he's only a deadly pocket passer. How can he kill you? With his legs too. That's what is meant by a running QB. And his running is by far a bigger morale killer than his passing.
This is all true, but the term "running QB" has connotations of someone that relies heavily on running to be effective. Think along the lines of a Kaepernick type player. That term was being thrown around pre-draft as a knock on Murray that he will get injured because he is a "running QB". Of course anyone who watched him at OU would have seen that he is a passer first and always protects himself when he does take off and run.
 
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1. No one attacked him. I asked him a question.
2. Harry claimed he was accused of being prejudice towards Kyler. By who? Where?
3. I just posted this in another thread about another poster

4. The only thing I pointed out in Harry's post is that he spoke of his concern about Kyler predraft and then followed it up at the end that he's still concerned about his focus. Like why? Maybe he'll still be good, maybe he wont. However, that post seems more like trying to validate his original point if Kyler fails for whatever reason. He may fail but who is to say thats the reason. Seems more like a prepared I told you so.
5. I really like Harry regardless.
6. You're very sensitive/defensive about the issue so we can keep it moving or no longer discuss this topic. No need of me getting banned for dissing someone on a message board. Not that big of a deal. I like it here. Enjoy your day.

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Except Harry's an industry insider, so his opinion and knowledge draws water around here.
Harry is also very clearly biased. I don’t take any stock to his opinion on Kyler.
 

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Harry is also very clearly biased. I don’t take any stock to his opinion on Kyler.
Disregard those what are saying negative stuff Harry. The vast majority of this board wants to hear your opinion.

We may not always agree, but we know you have contacts and have likely forgotten more about football than most of us even know. You're truly a treasure to this forum.
 
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One more thing. If I were picking today, having seen his performance, of course I would take Murray with the first pick. I was clearly wrong, I also missed on Aaron Rodgers. Of course I had quite a bit of company on that pass.
 

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One more thing. If I were picking today, having seen his performance, of course I would take Murray with the first pick. I was clearly wrong, I also missed on Aaron Rodgers. Of course I had quite a bit of company on that pass.
I was wrong on Rodgers too. Thought he was just the next in line of Jeff Tedford quarterbacks to put up great college numbers only to fail in the nfl

But I do think sitting behind Favre for a few years changed his fate
 

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I was wrong on Rodgers too. Thought he was just the next in line of Jeff Tedford quarterbacks to put up great college numbers only to fail in the nfl

But I do think sitting behind Favre for a few years changed his fate
I dont think sitting helped him much at all.

Rodgers is the same guy I watched at Cal.

Big arm, big balls. Some people got hung up on variables that have been proven to be wrong. Same issue with Mahomes and all the air raid guys. And some spread guys too. Ignore the offense, look at the throws.
 

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Harry is also very clearly biased. I don’t take any stock to his opinion on Kyler.

I stand by that

But so what. We all have players we defend and we all have players we don’t like and knock.

Anybody who tells you oh I never let my emotions come into my sports takes is full of it. This would be boring if that was the case
 

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I dont think sitting helped him much at all.

Rodgers is the same guy I watched at Cal.

Big arm, big balls. Some people got hung up on variables that have been proven to be wrong. Same issue with Mahomes and all the air raid guys. And some spread guys too. Ignore the offense, look at the throws.
It did.

His throwing mechanics looked drastically different at Cal compared to the pros.
 

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I dont think sitting helped him much at all.

Rodgers is the same guy I watched at Cal.

Big arm, big balls. Some people got hung up on variables that have been proven to be wrong. Same issue with Mahomes and all the air raid guys. And some spread guys too. Ignore the offense, look at the throws.

Exactly. Look at arm strength, accuracy, mobility, and how they protect the ball. If they're good at all those things, and put up video game numbers, then they can probably read a defense too.
 

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Exactly. Look at arm strength, accuracy, mobility, and how they protect the ball. If they're good at all those things, and put up video game numbers, then they can probably read a defense too.
I mean guys like Graham Harrell obviously aren't NFL players.

But I remember when I was saying the Cardinals should draft Mahomes, a bunch of people said he was just an Air Raid QB and they all suck.

What I saw was a stupid great arm. Rodgers was similar and had ice in his veins. I thought it was crazy that everyone was higher on Alex Smith even though he played in a real funky offense.
 

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It did.

His throwing mechanics looked drastically different at Cal compared to the pros.
I'm more replying to his comment of sitting "changing his fate". Rodgers would have been great even if he started day one. Maybe not as successful right away, but Rodgers' personality is why he is so great.
 

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Yeah see I think sitting in the green room all day waiting to be drafted... then having to sit behind a hall of gamer.... it pissed him off and he has been playing with a chip on his shoulder ever since
 

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Ah hell, it ain’t like anybody is right, I mean sustain 75% correct picks each week and vegas will give you a job. Have you ever let experts from any network pick a fantasy draft? the team sucks and loses most weeks.

i have always enjoyed watching km, still think we should establish rbs early to protect him and see his best ball. He has been hurt each year, but gets back up and plays hard.
 

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The thing I like about Murray is he’s so “well spoken” def not a “thug” like that other guy.

He’s just an athletic freak. I’m trying to come up with a nickname to give him comparing him to an animal I just can’t think of one yet.
Shame on you... That's a pretty crappy comment. I'm not here to call ANY BODY out at all but that was an awful comment.
" Well spoken " SMH... " Def not a thug like that other guy " SMH...
How someone speaks has more to do with their environment and less to do with the type of person they actually are, I am hoping I'm wrong about who you meant when you stated; " that other guy ". But, please feel free to explain what makes " that other guy " a thug because he's not " so well spoken "... Just curious why someone's speech patterns means they are more or less of what you consider a " Thug "...
I enjoy this forum because it is simply about The Cardinals and Football.. I hope all the rest stays out of this forum. Wonder what "animal you will come up with to call Kyler " SMH... How about just calling him what everyone else in this forum seems to call him... ( Kyler, K1, Murray).
 
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