Arizona Basketball 2015-2016

[Lefty]

Zona is a team that is not your typical Miller coached team. This team does not have any elite defenders, but has scorers. The effort on defense is improving, but it's simply that the talent level isn't there, especially when comparing the two previous years' teams.

I still maintain that this is a Sweet 16 team. How Miller is 0.5 games away from the top spot in the conference is a small miracle and a testament to how good of a coach he is.

Some think Miller isn't a good coach but what he has done with this team really shows he is a very good coach who can make adjustments when needed. I would take him over any coach in the Pac-12.

 

[TJ]

I'm not sure how the rest of the season is going to play out, but Zona being tied for first place at this juncture is a small miracle.

Zona rest of season:

ASU
@CU
@Utah
Cal
Stanford

Oregon rest of season:
OSU
WSU
UW
@UCLA
@USC

 

[TJ]

https://twitter.com/zonazooofficial/status/700166042098597890

 

[TJ]

I never want to see Gabe York anywhere near the court with less than two minutes in the game. I'd rather have Tre Mason or Jacob Hazzard.

 

[Russ Smith]

I never want to see Gabe York anywhere near the court with less than two minutes in the game. I'd rather have Tre Mason or Jacob Hazzard.

His 3 started the UA comeback to be fair.

That last sequence was just awful. I THINK York actually did touch the ball but it was completely unclear on replay, no way in hell you overturn the original call on that replay. And then as a makeup, Arizona is grabbing Scott trying to foul him multiple times they don't call the foul and then call the walk on Scott.

Trier is really good I'm surprised he's not higher ranked right now. DE has him end of first round, ESPN Chad has him 2nd rounder.

 

[TJ]

His 3 started the UA comeback to be fair.



That last sequence was just awful. I THINK York actually did touch the ball but it was completely unclear on replay, no way in hell you overturn the original call on that replay. And then as a makeup, Arizona is grabbing Scott trying to foul him multiple times they don't call the foul and then call the walk on Scott.



Trier is really good I'm surprised he's not higher ranked right now. DE has him end of first round, ESPN Chad has him 2nd rounder.

York blew the USC, Cal, and CU games in the waning seconds with poor ball handling and/or poor time management.

Not sure what to think of Trier in the pros. He could benefit with another year to develop his game, particularly on defense; but wouldn't fault him if he felt he could sneak into the first-round.

 

[Russ Smith]

York blew the USC, Cal, and CU games in the waning seconds with poor ball handling and/or poor time management.

Not sure what to think of Trier in the pros. He could benefit with another year to develop his game, particularly on defense; but wouldn't fault him if he felt he could sneak into the first-round.

He's got the pro offensive game he has that euro step that looks like a walk but is almost never called, he's got the use the off hand to make space without being so obvious it's a foul, and he's exceptional at getting the defender off balance and drawing fouls. He's also a very good shooter it took awhile to show that but he's got it going now.

I agree on defense although he's gotten better there. the one thing he really has to work on is passing the ball, he just doesn't pass enough. He's also already 20 so he's a bit old for his class. I also think we're going to see several guys go this year because they know next year is loaded.

 

[TJ]

Miller is right: This is getting out of hand.

https://twitter.com/EzraAmacher/status/702732336278822913

 

[Russ Smith]

I agree with Miller but I'm not sure what you can do. They build these games up so big that the students have to let off steam somehow.

They need more security around the visiting team for sure but actually stopping the court storming is going to be tough.

The obvious answer is to tell schools if it happens they're going to get fined or get a T, but you can't call a T AFTER the game so the T would go onto their next game and be irrelevant.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

12 of the last 14 road games this has happened. That's ridiculous.

Our athletic department as a whole has a major issue with the conference. I'm guessing an internal debate about the merits and viability of the Big 12 vs Pac 12 happens soon enough.

 

[TJ]

I agree with Miller but I'm not sure what you can do. They build these games up so big that the students have to let off steam somehow.

They need more security around the visiting team for sure but actually stopping the court storming is going to be tough.

The obvious answer is to tell schools if it happens they're going to get fined or get a T, but you can't call a T AFTER the game so the T would go onto their next game and be irrelevant.

the SEC fines teams whose fans storm the courts $5,000-$50,000 per occurrence. Start there and that will prompt teams to hire extra security and promote more fan awareness. If there is time left on the clock, which has happened in a couple of our games, assess the home team a technical foul.

The sad thing is Larry Scott hates Arizona so much that he won't do anything about it until he and his conference get sued because a student, player, or coach suffered a significant injury in the process.

 

[TJ]

12 of the last 14 road games this has happened. That's ridiculous.

Our athletic department as a whole has a major issue with the conference. I'm guessing an internal debate about the merits and viability of the Big 12 vs Pac 12 happens soon enough.

Byrne, RichRod, and Miller all hate Scott and the Pac-12 for various reasons. Unfortunately, I could see any of the three leaving the school simply to get out of the conference.

I've heard the Big-12 chatter before, but it's highly unlikely Arizona makes that transition.

 

[Dback Jon]

12 of the last 14 road games this has happened. That's ridiculous.

Our athletic department as a whole has a major issue with the conference. I'm guessing an internal debate about the merits and viability of the Big 12 vs Pac 12 happens soon enough.

You can't be serious about moving to the Big 12.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I agree with Miller but I'm not sure what you can do. They build these games up so big that the students have to let off steam somehow.

They need more security around the visiting team for sure but actually stopping the court storming is going to be tough.

The obvious answer is to tell schools if it happens they're going to get fined or get a T, but you can't call a T AFTER the game so the T would go onto their next game and be irrelevant.

Just give the visiting team 2-3 minutes to get off the court, and then let the fans come onto the court...

 

[Russ Smith]

Just give the visiting team 2-3 minutes to get off the court, and then let the fans come onto the court...

They made no effort to get off last bnight, presumably they were waiting for a security escort but they were standign there watching it.

Maybe they need fan boxes like the coaching boxes.

Oh wait that doesn't work for coaches, won't work for fans.

 

[82CardsGrad]

They made no effort to get off last bnight, presumably they were waiting for a security escort but they were standign there watching it.

Not true...They had no chance. Game ended and they were immediately swarmed.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

You can't be serious about moving to the Big 12.

It'd be a lateral move for sure. You're essentially trading in the USC-UC school power core for the Texas one. There's also the unknown of whether UofA would keep their brand in California both academically and athletically should they depart the Pac-12. Out of state California students make up a huge piece of the tuition pie and if some of that is lost and not replaced by say Texans or Oklahomans or whatever then the move presents a huge burden to the university as a whole.

That being said, I am 100% confident Sean Miller and Rich Rodriguez would be behind this move but athletics are only a piece of the university. Probably too large of the piece but that's a different conversation.

Either way the reason I think it could get discussed in Greg Byrne. He's a career AD and his father was a career AD. AD's don't get remembered in their profession for building facilities or hiring coaches or raising money. They get remembered for shaking up the system. UA jumping to the Big 12 would set off a huge chain reaction both locally and nationally and Byrne would be the guy behind it. He'd be invited to speak at AD conferences and lunches for the rest of his life. Any ambitious person would love such an opportunity.

 

[GatorAZ]

I remember when K-State upset Kansas and a fan purposely slammed into one of their guys. Fans have already gotten hurt and it's only a matter of time before a player makes a big mistake.

 

[DWKB]

I remember when K-State upset Kansas and a fan purposely slammed into one of their guys. Fans have already gotten hurt and it's only a matter of time before a player makes a big mistake.

Nathan Power.

You don't get away from court storming with a move to the Big 12.

Also, I'd certainly enjoy UofA in the Big 12, but I doubt they'd want to travel to WVU.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Nathan Power.

You don't get away from court storming with a move to the Big 12.

Also, I'd certainly enjoy UofA in the Big 12, but I doubt they'd want to travel to WVU.

I actually don't think Miller would mind an semi-annual game in the eastern time zone. And Rodriguez would love playing WVU every year. Don't think either of those guys will be in their current position when this were hypothetically to take place.

 

[TJ]

Nathan Power.

You don't get away from court storming with a move to the Big 12.

Also, I'd certainly enjoy UofA in the Big 12, but I doubt they'd want to travel to WVU.

There are other matters beyond court storming that would influence an Arizona move to the Big-12. RichRod, Miller, and Byrne have a flawed relationship with Larry Scott, including no bye-week seasons in football, Scott defending Eddie Rush when he was reinforcing his refs intentionally screwing over Miller in games, the ongoing Pac-12/DirecTV drama has been something that has really bothered Byrne, amongst other things.

UofA is by far the Pac's top money maker in hoops, and has national recognition in football due in large part to RichRod and having a football-centered AD with ties to the SEC. Why Scott has a vendetta against the school makes no sense whatsoever. He won't even visit Tucson, but will go to every other school in his conference.

 

[Russ Smith]

Not true...They had no chance. Game ended and they were immediately swarmed.

watch the video on ESPN. Again, I think Miller is right, but last night th efans had zero interest in Arizona players. They went for midcourt where the CU guys were. The Arizona players are all standing near the UA bench with the coaches fuming about the loss and clearly mad about the court storming. BUt there is no interaction between the fans and the players.

i've seen instances where fans are taunting players and then Miller is 100% right, it could get ugly.

They were showing the video on ESPN this morning and Russillo or whatever his name was made that exact point, he said in this instance nobody really got that close to UA's players but obviously it COULD happen. Ever since the fan in womens tennis I think people have been concerned about that possibility in other sports.

let's also be honest, if anybody at Arizona is going to punch a fan it's probably going to be Sean Miller.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

watch the video on ESPN. Again, I think Miller is right, but last night th efans had zero interest in Arizona players. They went for midcourt where the CU guys were. The Arizona players are all standing near the UA bench with the coaches fuming about the loss and clearly mad about the court storming. BUt there is no interaction between the fans and the players.

i've seen instances where fans are taunting players and then Miller is 100% right, it could get ugly.

They were showing the video on ESPN this morning and Russillo or whatever his name was made that exact point, he said in this instance nobody really got that close to UA's players but obviously it COULD happen. Ever since the fan in womens tennis I think people have been concerned about that possibility in other sports.

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Um...okay. Film don't lie. Check last 40 seconds, both Anderson and Tarc slammed into.

 

[Russ Smith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uu4gQM9gt0

Um...okay. Film don't lie. Check last 40 seconds, both Anderson and Tarc slammed into.

Hopefully the board has stopped hanging so this finally posts.

Slamming into is a bit strong, Trier and Talton run into each other. A girl bumps into Tarc running past him, and then a guy holding a phone or camera does the same thing and Tarc turns and yells at him. Not even close to slamming into him. I honestly don't see anybody run into Anderson. He grabs a CU player then realized the game is over, lets go and starts towards the bench and the camera loses him as the fans are rushing.

It COULD have been worse but I don't think it was all that bad.

I think he's right they need to look into fines etc.

 

[Russ Smith]

And the official Pac 12 response is we've looked into this before and made proposals but the schools have to agree to changes and so far the schools have NOT agreed.

Hopefully something happens, Pasch said on ESPN2 that all the schools have their own policy but there is no unified policy