The official Gannon/Monti/Petzing should be fired thread……

[kerouac9]

He can find a rookie who will miss multiple games his rookie year to injury.

Man too soon. Some of them also miss multiple games in their second and third seasons.

 

[football karma]

I like Jonathan Gannon. I appreciate some of his principles: He never publicly throws players under the bus. He never fails to accept responsibility. It would be easy in this situation to start assigning blame. He hasnt.

But its also clear he and his staff have no answers.

 

[slanidrac16]

I like Jonathan Gannon. I appreciate some of his principles: He never publicly throws players under the bus. He never fails to accept responsibility. It would be easy in this situation to start assigning blame. He hasnt.

But its also clear he and his staff have no answers.

A great coach once said, “ Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.”

 

[Mulli]

A great coach once said, “ Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser.”

I thought Kyler said that

 

[IAcards]

The whole organization needs blown up. Yet again. It's too bad Mikey won't step away as owner. But since he won't be, he needs a legit football operations person running things, without his input. Dreaming is free.

 

[Proteus]

The team needs more talent but even more so the team needs a lot better coaching! We really need to fire JG and his staff.

 

[football karma]

I dont see how anybody who had a hand in creating what will likely be the worst winning % season in franchise history (and that says something given their history) can keep their job.

 

[phillycard]

what moron decided not to draft Cooper Dejean?

Okay!!!!!!! It was literally so simple!!!! Meanwhile, he's running back pick 6's in the SB and earning pro bowl nods!

 

[phillycard]

Watching like 28 of 32 other teams play is just really discouraging because they can play football and we can’t.

We're reminded weekly of our suckage as we watch our whole division earn playoff births and thrive doing so. And here my dumb a** literally thought the West was "wide open" this year.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

We're reminded weekly of our suckage as we watch our whole division earn playoff births and thrive doing so. And here my dumb a** literally thought the West was "wide open" this year.

Don't feel bad. There's quite a few that thought we would be better this year

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

this would be inexcusable for any other team in the nfc west- fired after the bye

 

[HairZach]

this would be inexcusable for any other team in the nfc west- fired after the bye

This exact same situation has happened Shanahan 3 times and McVay once.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

This exact same situation has happened Shanahan 3 times and McVay once.

wow - shanahan rebuilt - improved the team to go 8-9 - then went 3-14 three different times?

 

[HairZach]

wow - shanahan rebuilt - improved the team to go 8-9 - then went 3-14 three different times?

Shanahan: After his 1st year he has had years of 4-12, 6-10, 6-11, with huge losing streaks at the end of the season. All of these bad years were driven by huge injury pileups.
McVay: 5-12 after the superbowl win. Again, huge injury pileup.

Is there a difference in your mind between 3 and 6 wins? We blew the doors off a tanking 49ers squad week 18 last year. Last years 49ers squad was losing 35-10 every other week.

You are incorrect. Two of our division mates have bottomed out in similar fashion and they did not fire their coaches at the bye. It was not "inexcusable."

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[BooksOrangePlanet]

Shanahan: After his 1st year he has had years of 4-12, 6-10, 6-11, with huge losing streaks at the end of the season. All of these bad years were driven by huge injury pileups.
McVay: 5-12 after the superbowl win. Again, huge injury pileup.

Is there a difference in your mind between 3 and 6 wins? We blew the doors off a tanking 49ers squad week 18 last year. Last years 49ers squad was losing 35-10 every other week.

You are incorrect. Two of our division mates have bottomed out in similar fashion and they did not fire their coaches at the bye. It was not "inexcusable."

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[Cheesebeef]

Shanahan: After his 1st year he has had years of 4-12, 6-10, 6-11, with huge losing streaks at the end of the season. All of these bad years were driven by huge injury pileups.
McVay: 5-12 after the superbowl win. Again, huge injury pileup.

Is there a difference in your mind between 3 and 6 wins? We blew the doors off a tanking 49ers squad week 18 last year. Last years 49ers squad was losing 35-10 every other week.

You are incorrect. Two of our division mates have bottomed out in similar fashion and they did not fire their coaches at the bye. It was not "inexcusable."

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There is absolutely a difference between 3 wins and 6 wins. That’s literally DOUBLE the amount of wins and one team is amongst the worst in the league if not THE worst team and one team is mediocre-below average.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

i just can't put the names shanahan and gann...ganno.. gann.. in the same sentence

 

[Mulli]

There is absolutely a difference between 3 wins and 6 wins. That’s literally DOUBLE the amount of wins and one team is amongst the worst in the league if not THE worst team and one team is mediocre-below average.

Math checks out

 

[HairZach]

i just can't put the names shanahan and gann...ganno.. gann.. in the same sentence

My point is this sort of season happens to the best organizations in the league with proven HOF coaches.

Do we hold it against Shanahan as a coach that he let Petzing put up 47 against him late last year in a blow out loss? That he got humiliated in 20+ points losses multiple times that season? No, because his best players weren't on the field. I haven't watched the Cardinals play since the Bucs game, this is just a lost season no matter who the coach is.

Gannon is not a proven commodity and is probably gone, but I'm not holding this season against him. With the amount of injuries this year our team could have been coached by McVay with Shanahan as OC and Mike Macdonald as DC and still finished last in the division.

 

[kerouac9]

My point is this sort of season happens to the best organizations in the league with proven HOF coaches.

Do we hold it against Shanahan as a coach that he let Petzing put up 47 against him late last year in a blow out loss? That he got humiliated in 20+ points losses multiple times that season? No, because his best players weren't on the field. I haven't watched the Cardinals play since the Bucs game, this is just a lost season no matter who the coach is.

Gannon is not a proven commodity and is probably gone, but I'm not holding this season against him.

BRO THOSE GUYS WENT TO SUPER BOWLS! How do you not see the difference in credibility and track record here???

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

My point is this sort of season happens to the best organizations in the league with proven HOF coaches.

Do we hold it against Shanahan as a coach that he let Petzing put up 47 against him late last year in a blow out loss? That he got humiliated in 20+ points losses multiple times that season? No, because his best players weren't on the field. I haven't watched the Cardinals play since the Bucs game, this is just a lost season no matter who the coach is.

Gannon is not a proven commodity and is probably gone, but I'm not holding this season against him. With the amount of injuries this year our team could have been coached by Andy Reid with Shanahan as OC and McDonald as DC and still finished last in the division.

oh - im holding this season against gannon - like big time essay - the defense that is supposed to be his specialty most of all - never took over playcall just took fake ass accountability - mistake after mistake - lost the confidence of the team - he's the demarcado of coaches

 

[Chopper0080]

My point is this sort of season happens to the best organizations in the league with proven HOF coaches.

Do we hold it against Shanahan as a coach that he let Petzing put up 47 against him late last year in a blow out loss? That he got humiliated in 20+ points losses multiple times that season? No, because his best players weren't on the field. I haven't watched the Cardinals play since the Bucs game, this is just a lost season no matter who the coach is.

Gannon is not a proven commodity and is probably gone, but I'm not holding this season against him. With the amount of injuries this year our team could have been coached by McVay with Shanahan as OC and Mike Macdonald as DC and still finished last in the division.

There is no excuse to be 3 wins bad. Andy Reid won 4 games one season and got fired for it.

A bad season for a good coach seems to be 5 or 6 wins with some very outlier exceptions.

Two sub 5 win seasons out of your first three without any above 500 pretty much tells you all you need to know. He is not a HC.

 

[vince56]

Losing 13 of 14 should be the death knell for any front office and coaching staff. A rudderless ship, somehow even worse than what we had before this regime.

I’d have to look it up to see which one was most recent, the Cardinals winning a game, or a 100 degree day in Phoenix.

 

[vince56]

Okay!!!!!!! It was literally so simple!!!! Meanwhile, he's running back pick 6's in the SB and earning pro bowl nods!

Technically Cooper was not on the board when we picked in the 2nd. Now could we have picked him in the 1st over Darius? Great question, but probably too much hindsight initiated. Cooper wasn’t a 1st round pick before the draft, he quickly developed into a star.

 

[kerouac9]

Technically Cooper was not on the board when we picked in the 2nd. Now could we have picked him in the 1st over Darius? Great question, but probably too much hindsight initiated. Cooper wasn’t a 1st round pick before the draft, he quickly developed into a star.

We traded the 35th overall pick to move down for Melton. DeJean was selected 40th overall.