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cynical take on the Zaven Collins rumors:

Tony Pauline hears the Cards like him.

ROTB amplifies this

Florio repeats this.

Gambo then repeats this.

other media members grab this and run with it --- so that as each media source repeats it, it becomes a self-reinforcing rumor where its now "multiple sources".
 

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not Cardinal specific, but relevant:

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Keim's ears just pricked up

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Keim's ears just pricked up

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yeah, I don’t care about the sitting or playing because of Covid thing, I’m just not touching this kid’s back with a ten hundred foot pole.
 

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yeah, I don’t care about the sitting or playing because of Covid thing, I’m just not touching this kid’s back with a ten hundred foot pole.
This obviously changes things for me as well. I, like most "not in the know" were under the assumption that doctors were clearing him. If they think he'll need additional surgeries then his back must be made of glass.
 

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This obviously changes things for me as well. I, like most "not in the know" were under the assumption that doctors were clearing him. If they think he'll need additional surgeries then his back must be made of glass.

that’s the thing... once you’ve already gotten TWO, the back is a ticking time bomb. There definitely are examples of guys getting passed those surgeries. Right now Michael Porter is beasting in the NBA after several back surgeries that took him completely out of college and most of his first season. It’s just that the odds of the back staying stable with repeated surgeries just ain’t good, even if you’re not playing a contact sport.
 

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that’s the thing... once you’ve already gotten TWO, the back is a ticking time bomb. There definitely are examples of guys getting passed those surgeries. Right now Michael Porter is beasting in the NBA after several back surgeries that took him completely out of college and most of his first season. It’s just that the odds of the back staying stable with repeated surgeries just ain’t good, even if you’re not playing a contact sport.

Agree with this. Wouldn't take him in the draft or FA. Already have a CB that will probably break/tear something his first practice, don't need another one.
 

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Keim's ears just pricked up

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Screams Keim 2nd rounder

"We thought he was the best corner, but we liked our first-round pick better"
"I was just amazed he fell this far"
"Our doctors cleared him, we feel comfortable"
"Here, I brought out our doctor to answer some questions"
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If it happens, I won't be upset, but pray that his back is structurally ok and any 'additional' surgery is somehow, someway, a minor cleanup. (or it's just disinfo to get the guy to slide)
 

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Screams Keim 2nd rounder

"We thought he was the best corner, but we liked our first-round pick better"
"I was just amazed he fell this far"
"Our doctors cleared him, we feel comfortable"
"Here, I brought out our doctor to answer some questions"
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If it happens, I won't be upset, but pray that his back is structurally ok and any 'additional' surgery is somehow, someway, a minor cleanup. (or it's just disinfo to get the guy to slide)

there's no such thing as "minor cleanup" back surgery, especially a 3RD back surgery. and structurally, his back is already not okay and never really will be after two surgeries. it may be better than the pain that's necessitated two back surgeries, but it's never going to be structurally sound again. no dealing with a broken bone that heals completely. backs and discs ain't like that.
 
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That's my thought.

P.S. Do you receive the NFL Network in the UK?

No. We have a Sky sports NFL channel where we get GMFB and PFT live plus a bunch of Sky's own programming.

I can get NFL network though on Gamepass which I subscribe to for all games.
 

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my take is that he is built like a 4-3 DE-- 6-4, 275. I think his NFL comp is Brandon Graham of the Eagles. A really good player, but not a OLB.

Also -- he doesnt really drop into coverage at all. not that Card OLBs do it a lot, but they are asked to do it.

i think if the Cards took him, its more likely that they make him a 3-4 DE like Zach Allen

all that said, its not like i make a living at this....
6'2 261 official at his pro day.
 

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