Arizona Cardinals offseason thread 2022

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

not exactly, but directional:

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That’s even uglier.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

That’s even uglier.

So the Cards offense is entirely predictable, which is often reflected as the season goes on, and patterns are established.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Any of these analyses based on PFFs grades should be considered suspect, IMO.

Of course. I think I’ve been the biggest opponent of their individual grades due. But “covered” isn’t as much subjective. You can see if an individual is covered or open. You needn’t know the defensive scheme or the offense’s routes to see if everyone is covered. This is something that the eye test can better determine than the player grades. So this, at least, bears a bit more merit imo.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

So the Cards offense is entirely predictable, which is often reflected as the season goes on, and patterns are established.

The downward trend at end of seasons would seem consistent with this hypothesis.

 

[Zalixar]

The downward trend at end of seasons would seem consistent with this hypothesis.

Yes, but it can't be overlooked the injuries were mounting and our depth is below par.

 

[football karma]

So the Cards offense is entirely predictable, which is often reflected as the season goes on, and patterns are established.

i think its a factor, but at the margin

d coordinators dont forget everything they learned the year prior

Kliff doesnt completely reinvent his offense every offseason. Alternatively, I doubt Kliff creates 10 games worth of wrinkles, but not 17.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

i think its a factor, but at the margin

d coordinators dont forget everything they learned the year prior

Kliff doesnt completely reinvent his offense every offseason. Alternatively, I doubt Kliff creates 10 games worth of wrinkles, but not 17.

No coach completely reinvents an offense every year. It always comes down to scheme and matchups. Either way, if you're trotting colts and hags, to run against thoroughbreds, you're gonna get beat more often than not.

 

[Ronin]

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yes, but it can't be overlooked the injuries were mounting and our depth is below par.

Every year? Injuries happen in the NFL.

 

[Zalixar]

Every year? Injuries happen in the NFL.

Yeah, and 31 teams fail to win. The best of the injury "free" teams typically ride to the SB.

We had a corpse of a team during Rams game, including being awful.

Had no chance in hell.

Hopkins out. Baker out. O/D line wrecked. Like how much cap % were done for? I'd wager higher than all playoff teams.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah, and 31 teams fail to win. The best of the injury "free" teams typically ride to the SB.

We had a corpse of a team during Rams game, including being awful.

Had no chance in hell.

Hopkins out. Baker out. O/D line wrecked. Like how much cap % were done for? I'd wager higher than all playoff teams.

Hmm, baker didn’t miss any games. Weird post.

 

[kerouac9]

That’s even uglier.

Again, the basis is PFF grades, which are nonsense

 

[BullheadCardFan]

not exactly, but directional:

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Shows how predictable our offense is and lacking adjustments

 

[kerouac9]

Shows how predictable our offense is and lacking adjustments

FWIW, it also shows that he’s getting better, if you choose to accept PFFs coverage grades.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Again, the basis is PFF grades, which are nonsense

I don’t pretend to know how PFF defines “covered” but I would think that is more easily discernible than would be player grades. Again, you needn’t understand scheme to watch a given play and see that all routes are covered up by defenders. If PFF is using any other metric to determine that data I’d be less inclined to give it any validity.