With the 8th pick in the NFL Draft......

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  1. BritCard

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    Exactly. There isn't a Cards fan in existence that hasn't moaned like **** about our O line for 10 years. We haven't had an O line that's been outside the bottom 3rd in pass pro in the PFF era (2006) until last year and whether you like PFF or not anyone with eyes knows that's the case.

    Granted, last year WAS the best pass pro we had for a while but that's a product of scheme as much as anything else.

    Of our 5 starters Murray is a waiver wire pickup, Hump and AQ are FA and AQ is 32, Sweezy is 32. Pugh is the only guy with more than a year under contract and he's a big potential cap casualty after next year.

    We need to start investing in the O line via the draft.
     
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    Trade down, more picks, build a younger faster team
     
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    It could be argued that "the modern football landscape" is exactly what has led to the sudden extreme interest in dual threat QB's.

    With the college game not being capable of keeping up with supplying the NFL demand for starting quality O linemen, SOMETHING needed to change. What DID was the old idea of having a "pocket passer" QB behind a stellar O line.

    Am I saying O line is unimportant? No. I'm saying some people are either not keeping up with what's going on, or really thinking about what they're seeing.
     
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    You and I might disagree here... I think mobile QBs have been a thing in college ball for a long time now, but changing rules for the safety of players have taken away a lot of defensive chops and have allowed spread and Air Raid systems to become prevalent.

    I think if the rules hadn't changed first, football wouldn't change with it. Definitely an interesting debate though.
     
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    They seemed cool at OU. However, I know he'd get frustrated at times when Kyler would miss an easy throw to him. Then again that was just a few times because more times than not Lamb would make a spectacular catch on a poorly thrown pass.
    Kyler wanted Cody Ford at the top of the 2nd round (obviously before he proved anything)

    However, word is Keim favors Jeudy over Lamb. So if both are available I think they go Jeudy.
     
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    Keim also compared Lamb to Hopkins. Watch Hopkins tape and they watch Lamb. Very similar play style.

    The Cardinals are in the position that virtually any position they draft will make the team better. The only positions I would hate for them to draft at #8 is TE or Safety.
     
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    #8 is practically un-Keimable. There will be, at the very minimum, a competent NFL starter drafted there. If we are lucky, a star.

    its #40 where I start worrying
     
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    Keim says hold his 5 beers

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    Why did Cooper fail? He certainly was very talented.

    I think he failed because of his injury and his lack of passion. If you are just good at football and you dont love the game, coming back from an injury that severe is tough to ever fully come back from.

    I think if Cooper hadn't been injured, he'd probably have worked out.
     
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    regarded as probably the safest pick in the draft at the time
     
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    I’m not gonna blame Keim for Cooper’s unfortunate injury.
     
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    This pick was widely regarded as being a safe, can't bust pick. Not Keims fault this dude broke his leg and then crawled into his shell.
     
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    totally different draft quality wise. go back and look at the alternatives -- its not pretty

    this draft has very good players down to slot 12 or so
     
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    I wish we can draft Simmons, but I'm pretty sure after a stellar combine performance he will be the third or second pick of the draft

    One between Wirf, Willis, Okudah, Lamb should be there at 8
     
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