What is the plan?

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  1. Chris_Sanders

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    Gambo has already confirmed this

    You can say he isn't reliable but remember he has dinner at Sarvers house
     
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    Damage control! However he meant it, which is conjecture, he said it. Whether it was a
    threat or not is irrelevant. It is a feeling that he expressed and that we share with him.

    If you were the star player on a team with an owner whose priority for a decade has not
    led to winning, wouldn't you feel the same?

    And if it were quoted, wouldn't you then play it down, having made the point? It is all part
    of the game.

    As I posted, Devin Booker is the only one with a chance to get Sarver to change direction.
    We'll see soon enough if it works. If not, I expect we'll hear from young Mr. Booker again
    next season.
     
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    All I can tell you is it never came across to me like a threat to the Suns, more like a promise to the world and perhaps motivation for himself. And it didn't sound like he was trying to do damage control when he answered a question by denying that he was in any way trying to threaten the Suns. Obviously, YMMV.
     
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    Here is the exact quote of his, if you watch and listen you can see Booker is very clear in what he's saying. He is putting pressure on himself and setting goals for himself to lead this team into the future and not making some sort of demand that the team needs to do X or Y or he'll demand a trade.

    The playoff quote comes after the question asked at 1:50 in the video, Booker's response is about 1:59 and the video is only 2 minutes and 33 seconds. I think it's worth watching the whole video because he talks about how much he loves this city and franchise and wants to be the guy to turn things around here. This was at the end of the 2017-18 season, just to note, and he ended up signing his extension after this video was taken, which was for 5 more years here and no player options and if someone was gearing up to move then they don't sign an extension like that without some sort of out involved.

     
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    People need to stop with this Booker isn't happy and gonna request a trade made up nonsense. He's never given an inkling of this. It's pretty clear he takes pride and ownership in being the face of the Suns franchise.
     
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    the national media keep pushing this like they pushed the AD to leave NO narrative—especially that Nichols chick on ESPN.

    They love the idea of big markets raiding talent from smaller ones. I hope LA and NY never ever win another championship.
     
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    Why??? Booker isn't happy with the Suns futility over the past decade
    and neither are the fans. That is nothing to be ashamed about!

    All of the turnover. GM's. Head Coaches. Players. No long range plans.

    Devin Booker is the only person who could pressure management into
    doing more than counting their money.

    Why would any Suns fan condone their ongoing status of failure?

    I hope Devin continues to be the voice of hope. He is all we have.
     
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    Folster The system doesn't work.

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    I was trying to make sense out of all of the rumors coming out of NOLA and some of the ties to Phoenix.

    I think it's a forgone conclusion that Randle will leave NOLA, but perhaps a sign and trade with Phoenix could be in the works for Warren or JJ.

    Perhaps a swap of the #4 and #6 could be involved which could explain Gambo saying NOLA would take Coby White despite not having the need for a PG.

    You could speculate that maybe we could take Solomon Hill back in exchange in a larger two part deal as I believe sign and trade players can't be combined with other players in a trade.

    Example:
    JJ or Warren and # 6 for Randle and the #4. Since NOLA was going to let Randle walk, maybe they see it as moving down two spots and picking up a contributor like Warren or another upside player like JJ.

    A larger 2 part trade would be less enticing, but we would send out both Warren and JJ in separate deals. One trade would net Solomon Hill and the #4 for Warren and the #6 while JJ would be traded in a separate deal for a re-signed Randle.

    Solomon Hill would expire next year giving us some cap relief.
     
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    Have you even read the previous posts? Booker is not happy with HIMSELF. That is clearly what he meant in that clip and that is what I understood from it from day one.
     
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    I like your idea a lot. Warren or Jackson and a swap of picks #4 and #6 for Randle. I'd even sweeten it if necessary to get it done with the Bucks pick.

    It allows the Suns to keep Oubre as well.
     
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    Well, there goes that idea of a sign and trade for Randle.


    Shams Charania‏Verified account @ShamsCharania


    Pelicans‘ Julius Randle is not picking up his $9M player option for next season and will enter unrestricted free agency, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium. Randle is coming off his best NBA season (21.4 PPG, 8.7 RPG, 34.4 percent from 3-point range on 195 attempts).

    5:23 PM - 16 Jun 2019


    He is certainly worth more than 9 million.
     
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    I thought he would have a cap hold, but I believe that only applies to players who have Bird rights and have been under contract for two or more years. Without Bird rights, NOLA would have to use their cap space to sign him so that possibility becomes more unlikely although they project to have 15+19M in cap space.
     
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    Not necessarily. It just makes it more challenging to match salaries. Randle is probably worth closer to what Tyler Johnson makes than what TJ Warren makes, anyway.

    That being said, I would have been all over trading Warren in this scenario, but definitely not Jackson. Something tells me that Monty will get him closer to what we saw at Kansas and in the second half of his rookie season, which would have him on an all-Star trajectory. He needs coaching, and he needs to grow up. The talent and even basketball IQ capacity are clearly still there, in my opinion.
     
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    Anyway, the sign and trade option becomes more complicated.

    I liked the idea because it solved the problem of adding Randle and keeping Oubre. Also it gave the Suns the #4 pick to select the point guard of choice.
     

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