The Case for Trading the Third Pick

[Krangodnzr]

I mean...of course there is a price where you make a move and if that ends up being so substantial that you can't turn it down, fine. IMO, that is an unlikely scenario. This team is desperate for game changing players. Passing on one of those to move back for a good, not great, RT is ignorant. This team could not pressure the QB at the end of games without Walter Nolen or Calais Campbell. Josh Sweat had a nice season, but his ceiling is a good 2nd tier EDGE. To pass on Bailey or even Reese in a less talented draft year would be an incredibly poor decision to go along with his numerous other poor decisions.

I'm starting to warm up to Reese. His snaps rushing the passer are extremely explosive.

 

[Stout]

I mean...of course there is a price where you make a move and if that ends up being so substantial that you can't turn it down, fine. IMO, that is an unlikely scenario. This team is desperate for game changing players. Passing on one of those to move back for a good, not great, RT is ignorant. This team could not pressure the QB at the end of games without Walter Nolen or Calais Campbell. Josh Sweat had a nice season, but his ceiling is a good 2nd tier EDGE. To pass on Bailey or even Reese in a less talented draft year would be an incredibly poor decision to go along with his numerous other poor decisions.

Well, not Reese. but otherwise I agree.

 

[Harry]

Would reinforce Monti being an idiot and not learning from past mistakes. I hope you are wrong and/or something changes.

Are you afraid that if they went down to 8 or 9, Fano & Mauigoa would be gone. I don’t see a big difference between them. It seems like a free pick just waiting to be grabbed. This is not like Ossenfort’s previous trade. Spending a three on a RT is quite unusual. Seems like overkill to me.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Are you afraid that if they went down to 8 or 9, Fano & Mauigoa would be gone. I don’t see a big difference between them. It seems like a free pick just waiting to be grabbed. This is not like Ossenfort’s previous trade. Spending a three on a RT is quite unusual. Seems like overkill to me.

unless its Wirfs or Joe Alt, and even thats a stretch.

 

[Chopper0080]

Are you afraid that if they went down to 8 or 9, Fano & Mauigoa would be gone. I don’t see a big difference between them. It seems like a free pick just waiting to be grabbed. This is not like Ossenfort’s previous trade. Spending a three on a RT is quite unusual. Seems like overkill to me.

I view them as a different tier than Mendoza, Bailey and Reese. I think Bailey and Reese have top level potential. I don't believe either Mauigoa or Fano are a Joe Alt level prospect. I think there is a chance you trade down and get sniped. I also view Mauigoa as a safer option to Fano so I have a larger split between the two than most. I also don't think the Cardinals get the return that makes it worth dropping tiers in talent because I don't think many teams are going to give up a ton to move up. I don't think many teams are giving up a 2027 1st to go to 3 and if they aren't, I am not interested. There will be several options for a RT in round 2 if they pigeon hole themselves into that need.

 

[Harry]

I view them as a different tier than Mendoza, Bailey and Reese. I think Bailey and Reese have top level potential. I don't believe either Mauigoa or Fano are a Joe Alt level prospect. I think there is a chance you trade down and get sniped. I also view Mauigoa as a safer option to Fano so I have a larger split between the two than most. I also don't think the Cardinals get the return that makes it worth dropping tiers in talent because I don't think many teams are going to give up a ton to move up. I don't think many teams are giving up a 2027 1st to go to 3 and if they aren't, I am not interested. There will be several options for a RT in round 2 if they pigeon hole themselves into that need.

I’m not advocating for taking a RT. It’s just that quite a few people who have solid history of predicting drafts are convinced that’s how the Cards will play it. If they went Edge, I’d be okay with your guy Bailey. I’m just hearing they think the pass rush was good enough with better coaching. They may not take an Edge at all, though they’re not opposed to a FA rusher, but not someone with a Sweat price tag. Whoever the new coach is the thinking seems to be Oline & WRs. Don’t be shocked if Murray is the QB. In the end I’ve run a few dozen scenarios with friends and a small move down likely still nets Mauigoa if they insist on a RT. Fano is more highly rated though it’s debated. I simply can’t see using a three on a RT. If they stay put I like Bailey. He’s the safest choice. Reese and Bain are major gambles, but they do have huge upsides. It’s a tough draft.

 

[Rohinaz]

I’m not advocating for taking a RT. It’s just that quite a few people who have solid history of predicting drafts are convinced that’s how the Cards will play it. If they went Edge, I’d be okay with your guy Bailey. I’m just hearing they think the pass rush was good enough with better coaching. They may not take an Edge at all, though they’re not opposed to a FA rusher, but not someone with a Sweat price tag. Whoever the new coach is the thinking seems to be Oline & WRs. Don’t be shocked if Murray is the QB. In the end I’ve run a few dozen scenarios with friends and a small move down likely still nets Mauigoa if they insist on a RT. Fano is more highly rated though it’s debated. I simply can’t see using a three on a RT. If they stay put I like Bailey. He’s the safest choice. Reese and Bain are major gambles, but they do have huge upsides. It’s a tough draft.

Id be fine with Bain, he just seems like he hard to block. If we trade down, also would be good with Downs or Love.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

If they stay put I like Bailey. He’s the safest choice.

He's looking like the best option

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Don’t be shocked if Murray is the QB.

It's beyond pathetic that going into year 8 with zero hope, Kyler might STILL be our best option.

 

[oaken1]

Id be fine with Bain, he just seems like he hard to block. If we trade down, also would be good with Downs or Love.

Bain will be much easier to block for NFL OT's with 36 inch arms...they will latch on to him and he wont be able to get loose....unless he is insanely strong and able to knock away the hands of guys 50 pounds heavier

 

[Rohinaz]

Bain will be much easier to block for NFL OT's with 36 inch arms...they will latch on to him and he wont be able to get loose....unless he is insanely strong and able to knock away the hands of guys 50 pounds heavier

Well, hes taller than aaron donald... He just keeps beating whoever is in front of him.

 

[D-Dogg]

Here's my case. This draft sucks. What you get at 8 to 10 is the same as 3. Maybe one of the least top heavy drafts in decades. I am so not interested.

 

[Harry]

Here's my case. This draft sucks. What you get at 8 to 10 is the same as 3. Maybe one of the least top heavy drafts in decades. I am so not interested.

If you’re targeting the Oline you’re right about the position. However, it’s a draft where some roster depth can be built. It’s a scouts’ draft where the better your scouts, the better your results. Of course all drafts have an important scouting component, but in some years early picks are rather obvious; not this one. Finding productive players will be especially hard. Also teams that can develop players will find this draft productive. Teams that can’t do that will get little from this draft. Teams are going to rely on the Combine & Pro Days to define the best athletes as they will be lower risk selections.

 

[azgreg]

I say keep the 3rd pick and use it on either of the two Miami guys.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

It’s a scouts’ draft where the better your scouts, the better your results.

So...we're screwed?

 

[Harry]

So...we're screwed?

This will be a great draft to validate that one way or the other.

 

[oaken1]

If you’re targeting the Oline you’re right about the position. However, it’s a draft where some roster depth can be built. It’s a scouts’ draft where the better your scouts, the better your results. Of course all drafts have an important scouting component, but in some years early picks are rather obvious; not this one. Finding productive players will be especially hard. Also teams that can develop players will find this draft productive. Teams that can’t do that will get little from this draft. Teams are going to rely on the Combine & Pro Days to define the best athletes as they will be lower risk selections.

I dunno Harry...
If we can score a 2nd to move off 3...maybe get around 18 or so...

Then grab a starting RT in the first...with our first 2nd, we grab a college OT that needs to move to guard...
Then with our extra 2nd...grab an OC...
Move Frodo to right guard...start rookies at LG,Center, and RT...the first three picks...
The competition could be fierce if Hernandez is fully recovered, and Jon Gaines is really ready to step in at Center...
Scarey to start so many rooks on the line...but Jacoby is a trooper...
But this is a decent draft to get three of linemen in the top 50 picks..
Fix the issue and be done with it

 

[MadCardDisease]

If you’re targeting the Oline you’re right about the position. However, it’s a draft where some roster depth can be built. It’s a scouts’ draft where the better your scouts, the better your results. Of course all drafts have an important scouting component, but in some years early picks are rather obvious; not this one. Finding productive players will be especially hard. Also teams that can develop players will find this draft productive. Teams that can’t do that will get little from this draft. Teams are going to rely on the Combine & Pro Days to define the best athletes as they will be lower risk selections.

What if Dallas came calling because Jerruh wanted to add a pass rusher to replace Parsons? Would moving down to #12 and #20 be too far???

Cardinals Trade:
2026 #3 overall

Dallas Trades:
2026 #12 overall
2026 #20 overall
2027 3rd rounder

 

[Stout]

I dunno Harry...
If we can score a 2nd to move off 3...maybe get around 18 or so...

Then grab a starting RT in the first...with our first 2nd, we grab a college OT that needs to move to guard...
Then with our extra 2nd...grab an OC...
Move Frodo to right guard...start rookies at LG,Center, and RT...the first three picks...
The competition could be fierce if Hernandez is fully recovered, and Jon Gaines is really ready to step in at Center...
Scarey to start so many rooks on the line...but Jacoby is a trooper...
But this is a decent draft to get three of linemen in the top 50 picks..
Fix the issue and be done with it

So you're in favor of the Suggs Plan, I see. No freaking thank you.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

What if Dallas came calling because Jerruh wanted to add a pass rusher to replace Parsons? Would moving down to #12 and #20 be too far???

Cardinals Trade:
2026 #3 overall

Dallas Trades:
2026 #12 overall
2026 #20 overall
2027 3rd rounder

In a draft with very few star players, more reps seems like a greater chance of success. There is no Will Anderson Jr. Just stunning there isn't ONE stud LT/DE/CB in this draft...even when we lose we can't win.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

What if Dallas came calling because Jerruh wanted to add a pass rusher to replace Parsons? Would moving down to #12 and #20 be too far???

Cardinals Trade:
2026 #3 overall

Dallas Trades:
2026 #12 overall
2026 #20 overall
2027 3rd rounder

In this draft...yes for sure. I dont view any of the pass rushers anywhere close to Suggs level...and why take a RT at #3 when we could get one at #12.

We most likely arent going to take Tate, Downs, or Love....so the pick is either a pass rusher, and there are 3-4 bunched up together..or a RT, and there are 3-4 bunched up together.

At #12 and #20 you might get to take a player out of both pools....RT at 12 and pass rusher at 20

 

[Harry]

I dunno Harry...
If we can score a 2nd to move off 3...maybe get around 18 or so...

Then grab a starting RT in the first...with our first 2nd, we grab a college OT that needs to move to guard...
Then with our extra 2nd...grab an OC...
Move Frodo to right guard...start rookies at LG,Center, and RT...the first three picks...
The competition could be fierce if Hernandez is fully recovered, and Jon Gaines is really ready to step in at Center...
Scarey to start so many rooks on the line...but Jacoby is a trooper...
But this is a decent draft to get three of linemen in the top 50 picks..
Fix the issue and be done with it

I’m not going back to 18 or even 10. I’m hearing New Orleans is looking RB (Kamara’s getting old) and WR. If you look at the pools of those positions WR is one of the deepest pools in the draft. The trade would look something like this. The Cards give up rd 1 pick 3 & rd 3 pick 65. The Saints give up rd 1 pick 8, rd 2 pick 42 rd 2 2027 pick and rd 3 pick 75. The Cards return is likely below the draft chart value, but it gets them what they need.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’m not advocating for taking a RT. It’s just that quite a few people who have solid history of predicting drafts are convinced that’s how the Cards will play it. If they went Edge, I’d be okay with your guy Bailey. I’m just hearing they think the pass rush was good enough with better coaching.

who are you hearing this from? our pass rush was WORSE last year than it was the year before when it was terrible and that was AFTER adding Sweat and Campbell... and next year they won't even have Campbell and likely not a healthy Walter Nolen who tore his ACL at the end of last season.

 

[MadCardDisease]

who are you hearing this from? our pass rush was WORSE last year than it was the year before when it was terrible and that was AFTER adding Sweat and Campbell... and next year they won't even have Campbell and likely not a healthy Walter Nolen who tore his ACL at the end of last season.

Did we confirm that it was an ACL? I don’t remember seeing anything other than it was a “knee” injury that he had surgery on. Freaking Gannon and his stupid injury reports.

 

[Harry]

Did we confirm that it was an ACL? I don’t remember seeing anything other than it was a “knee” injury that he had surgery on. Freaking Gannon and his stupid injury reports.

My understanding is ACL.