The Ayton Plan

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Reading that, I see where Sarver is saving money by just matching a restricted offer. I also see where you lose control of a player sooner. Taking a risk. I keep thinking of how Valley sports analysts keep saying, why would you mess with that locker room good will?
THIS. As you're going into a two or three year TITLE RUN.
 

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I am wondering if part of this is the Center position in general. Big money seems to go to PGs, SGs, SFs, with PFs and Centers being necessary evils in the modern NBA. It seems easier to pay the Doncics, Bookers, Trae Youngs, etc.
 

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4 years // $127m is the max restricted offer he can get according to Kellan.

"And in another layer, the salary cap rose a pretty penny in the middle of that five-year window, making Hayward’s max contract a steal in hindsight. That spike is similar to what is expected to come for the NBA in the mid-2020s as well"

this is another reason I'm pissed about this. The cap is looking to go up SIGNIFICANTLY in a couple years with another big TV deal and Covid behind sports enough that it doesn't hurt the bottom line like the last two years, which means a MAX deal signed NOW, that doesn't even kick in till NEXT season will be much cheaper than another year from now.

this whole thing is so stupid. it's Sarver just pissing in Suns fans' cereal right before we're about to take a big bite. if you don't think this is a question Ayton, already not the most mature guy in the world, is going to get asked and made to think about all the time, you're living in Pollyanaland.
 

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The only thing I exception with is his claim Windhorst stated the Suns wouldn't pay 3 or 4 year max, which the tweet above disproves. So that's a bit off.

I understood the trepidation of a 5 year max with escalators or early opt outs but refusing to agree to a 3 or 4 year max doesn't make sense for the Suns and if Ayton would have taken the regular max for 5 years without opt outs, which this article seems to imply without directly saying it, then do it.

I guess the middle ground might have been the 4 year max with a team option for year 5. I doubt that was offered because I can't see Ayton balking at that if he wanted the full 5 and the Suns wanted 3.

F'ing Sarver
 

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man, that Kellan Olson article says all there is to be said.
 

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"And in another layer, the salary cap rose a pretty penny in the middle of that five-year window, making Hayward’s max contract a steal in hindsight. That spike is similar to what is expected to come for the NBA in the mid-2020s as well"

this is another reason I'm pissed about this. The cap is looking to go up SIGNIFICANTLY in a couple years with another big TV deal and Covid behind sports enough that it doesn't hurt the bottom line like the last two years, which means a MAX deal signed NOW, that doesn't even kick in till NEXT season will be much cheaper than another year from now.

this whole thing is so stupid. it's Sarver just pissing in Suns fans' cereal right before we're about to take a big bite. if you don't think this is a question Ayton, already not the most mature guy in the world, is going to get asked and made to think about all the time, you're living in Pollyanaland.
Cost certainty when you lock up a guy now. I think Kellen Olsen was saying the Suns wanted a shorter contract and Ayton wanted a longer one. Seems the opposite of how I would want it if I was Sarver. For all the reason you stated above. What do I know?
 

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man, that Kellan Olson article says all there is to be said.
"From a distance, it looks like this decision-making comes down to saving money on that luxury tax bill. That’s it. "

"We can sit here and debate if a guy was more worth $7 million a year as opposed to $11 million, but as we’ve seen with Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jaren Jackson Jr. and Michael Porter Jr., you cannot nickel and dime with premium young talent. Doesn’t happen."
 

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"From a distance, it looks like this decision-making comes down to saving money on that luxury tax bill. That’s it. "

"We can sit here and debate if a guy was more worth $7 million a year as opposed to $11 million, but as we’ve seen with Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Jaren Jackson Jr. and Michael Porter Jr., you cannot nickel and dime with premium young talent. Doesn’t happen."

Jaren Jackson Jr. signed an extension for 4 years/ $105 million. It's hard to believe the Suns wouldn't offer Ayton that.

If they didn't and paid Bridges 4 years/ $90 million there must be more.
 

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Jaren Jackson Jr. signed an extension for 4 years/ $105 million. It's hard to believe the Suns wouldn't offer Ayton that.

If they didn't and paid Bridges 4 years/ $90 million there must be more.

if the Suns did offer that, Ayton should have spit in their proverbial faces. sorry... that just ain't realistic.
 
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