Treesquid PhD
Pardon my Engrish
They need to address the GM part first, we have seen the coaching changes before. the Bidwill defenders can't even touch their inability to pick coaches.
Get a damn GM, let him make the moves (all of them coaches, scouts, player personell), set your budget keep him to it and get the hell out of the decision. A new coach may tide some of you over but it's not enough.
Time to fire Green is now
John Gambadoro
Special for azcentral.com
Oct. 30, 2006 09:25 AM
[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Let the next head coach of the Arizona Cardinals beware - the desert is a graveyard for those of you in the profession. After the Cardinals mercifully end the Denny Green era, whether that be today, tomorrow or in eight weeks, he will go away into obscurity - never again to be seen on the sidelines, calling the shots. That's the way it was for Gene Stallings, Hank Kuhlmann, Buddy Ryan, Vince Tobin, Dave McGinnis and now Green. Only Joe Bugel got another shot after leaving the Arizona Cardinals and that was a one-year disaster in Oakland in 1997.
Arizona is like a cemetery for coaches, where their careers get put to rest. They come to the Valley trying to win for an organization that's synonymous with losing. They promise that things will be different, that they will change the perception of the organization. They believe that they can turn things around and make the Arizona Cardinals winners. Then they go out and lose football games with regularity. They end up getting fired before their contract is completed. And then they go away.
Coaching the Arizona Cardinals is a recipe for disaster, not to mention ulcers. The ownership is not completely committed to winning. The team has zero history or tradition worth mentioning. But it is a job, and there are only 32 of them in the NFL world so somehow it is always attractive and will always have candidates. But any coach who want to be successful in this league need not apply - because coaching the Cardinals is a career killer.
Green came in with a proven track record. He had taken the Minnesota Vikings to the playoffs eight times in 10 years as the head coach. He talked a good game, about how the team would make the playoffs in Year One. Arizona went 6-10 that first year. In Year Two Green expected that his team would improve and be in contention for the division title. The Cardinals went 5-11. This year he believed he had the talent to win big. He has lost seven straight games after opening the season with a win.
Green deserves to be fired because the Cardinals ownership needs to show the fans that they care. That 1-7 is not acceptable. That being the worst team in the National Football League will not be tolerated. The Bidwills should be so humiliated by fielding one of their worst teams ever that money is no object in making a change.
Green is a dead man walking and everyone knows it. His body language and remarks say he wants out. He is in the third year of a four-year deal worth $10 million. He is owed $3.75 million and will have to be paid off to go away. But what else can owner Bill Bidwill and the chosen son Michael do? They have no other choice. If they truly are disgusted with the way their team has played then they must make a change.
The timing is right with the bye week coming up. A portion of the team has shut Green out and the offense has clearly lost confidence in the coach and his staff. After buying into a system for three years and having it not work, it's only natural for players to stop believing what the coach is telling them.
Keeping Green would send the wrong message to the fans. It would send a message of not caring about the results. And while many believe that the Cardinals are only an offensive line away from actually being good, the results do speak for themselves. Green is 12-28 and statistically ranks as one of the worst coaches in Cardinals history with a winning percentage of .300. Tobin had a winning percentage of .397, as did Stallings, Ryan was at .375, Bugel .312, McGinnis - if you only count his three full seasons and not the nine games as the interim head coach - is at .333.
Green is not winning and is actually going backwards, from 6 wins to 5 wins to ???. This Cardinal team may be lucky to finish with four wins. The easy part of its schedule is now over, and the competition gets a lot tougher starting with the Dallas Cowboys in two weeks.
It doesn't really matter who takes over for the final eight games, just as long as it's not Green. Defensive Coordinator Clancy Pendergast should get the nod. But whoever it is will realize that the job is only temporary. The Cardinals need to address their leadership at the top first and Green, along with Vice President of Football Operations Rod Graves, needs to be dismissed. The Cardinals need to hire a general manger first and foremost. No one should be thinking about who the next coach is right now. The objective is to put a qualified individual in the driver's seat of GM and let him make the decisions. The new GM should be in charge of picking a coach, a coaching staff, a scouting department, the draft and free agency.
If the Bidwills are intent on continuing to own this franchise, then the least they can do is stay out of the way and let someone qualified run the team. The stadium is built, the Super Bowl is coming, it's time for Michael to disappear. They have their naming rights deal and are making money hand over fist. They should hire a consulting staff of former successful coaches and players to search for the right general manager because it's obvious that when they make the decisions, they're never the right ones. After the group makes a decision the Bidwills need to hire the guy and get out of the way.
There is only one thing that will prevent the Cardinals from making the moves they need to make. And that is cheapness. How else would they possibly explain keeping Green at 1-7? The Cardinals are notorious for pinching pennies and if Green stays then Arizona cares less about its fans and its players and more about its bottom line and not wanting to eat the $3.75 million. And if that happens, the Cardinals will have some explaining to do.
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Get a damn GM, let him make the moves (all of them coaches, scouts, player personell), set your budget keep him to it and get the hell out of the decision. A new coach may tide some of you over but it's not enough.
Time to fire Green is now
John Gambadoro
Special for azcentral.com
Oct. 30, 2006 09:25 AM
[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Let the next head coach of the Arizona Cardinals beware - the desert is a graveyard for those of you in the profession. After the Cardinals mercifully end the Denny Green era, whether that be today, tomorrow or in eight weeks, he will go away into obscurity - never again to be seen on the sidelines, calling the shots. That's the way it was for Gene Stallings, Hank Kuhlmann, Buddy Ryan, Vince Tobin, Dave McGinnis and now Green. Only Joe Bugel got another shot after leaving the Arizona Cardinals and that was a one-year disaster in Oakland in 1997.
Arizona is like a cemetery for coaches, where their careers get put to rest. They come to the Valley trying to win for an organization that's synonymous with losing. They promise that things will be different, that they will change the perception of the organization. They believe that they can turn things around and make the Arizona Cardinals winners. Then they go out and lose football games with regularity. They end up getting fired before their contract is completed. And then they go away.
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Coaching the Arizona Cardinals is a recipe for disaster, not to mention ulcers. The ownership is not completely committed to winning. The team has zero history or tradition worth mentioning. But it is a job, and there are only 32 of them in the NFL world so somehow it is always attractive and will always have candidates. But any coach who want to be successful in this league need not apply - because coaching the Cardinals is a career killer.
Green came in with a proven track record. He had taken the Minnesota Vikings to the playoffs eight times in 10 years as the head coach. He talked a good game, about how the team would make the playoffs in Year One. Arizona went 6-10 that first year. In Year Two Green expected that his team would improve and be in contention for the division title. The Cardinals went 5-11. This year he believed he had the talent to win big. He has lost seven straight games after opening the season with a win.
Green deserves to be fired because the Cardinals ownership needs to show the fans that they care. That 1-7 is not acceptable. That being the worst team in the National Football League will not be tolerated. The Bidwills should be so humiliated by fielding one of their worst teams ever that money is no object in making a change.
Green is a dead man walking and everyone knows it. His body language and remarks say he wants out. He is in the third year of a four-year deal worth $10 million. He is owed $3.75 million and will have to be paid off to go away. But what else can owner Bill Bidwill and the chosen son Michael do? They have no other choice. If they truly are disgusted with the way their team has played then they must make a change.
The timing is right with the bye week coming up. A portion of the team has shut Green out and the offense has clearly lost confidence in the coach and his staff. After buying into a system for three years and having it not work, it's only natural for players to stop believing what the coach is telling them.
Keeping Green would send the wrong message to the fans. It would send a message of not caring about the results. And while many believe that the Cardinals are only an offensive line away from actually being good, the results do speak for themselves. Green is 12-28 and statistically ranks as one of the worst coaches in Cardinals history with a winning percentage of .300. Tobin had a winning percentage of .397, as did Stallings, Ryan was at .375, Bugel .312, McGinnis - if you only count his three full seasons and not the nine games as the interim head coach - is at .333.
Green is not winning and is actually going backwards, from 6 wins to 5 wins to ???. This Cardinal team may be lucky to finish with four wins. The easy part of its schedule is now over, and the competition gets a lot tougher starting with the Dallas Cowboys in two weeks.
It doesn't really matter who takes over for the final eight games, just as long as it's not Green. Defensive Coordinator Clancy Pendergast should get the nod. But whoever it is will realize that the job is only temporary. The Cardinals need to address their leadership at the top first and Green, along with Vice President of Football Operations Rod Graves, needs to be dismissed. The Cardinals need to hire a general manger first and foremost. No one should be thinking about who the next coach is right now. The objective is to put a qualified individual in the driver's seat of GM and let him make the decisions. The new GM should be in charge of picking a coach, a coaching staff, a scouting department, the draft and free agency.
If the Bidwills are intent on continuing to own this franchise, then the least they can do is stay out of the way and let someone qualified run the team. The stadium is built, the Super Bowl is coming, it's time for Michael to disappear. They have their naming rights deal and are making money hand over fist. They should hire a consulting staff of former successful coaches and players to search for the right general manager because it's obvious that when they make the decisions, they're never the right ones. After the group makes a decision the Bidwills need to hire the guy and get out of the way.
There is only one thing that will prevent the Cardinals from making the moves they need to make. And that is cheapness. How else would they possibly explain keeping Green at 1-7? The Cardinals are notorious for pinching pennies and if Green stays then Arizona cares less about its fans and its players and more about its bottom line and not wanting to eat the $3.75 million. And if that happens, the Cardinals will have some explaining to do.
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