Why can’t we win?

[KYCardFan]

Ownership

 

[pemory09]

Ownership

It’s the single, continuous thread that runs through this franchise. And no team could simply be this unlucky.

 

[Harry]

I really wanted to avoid this but since I’m basically being called a liar I’m left with little choice. Maybe the rules of the site should be amended to end this bs. Such comments are clearly personal attacks. Adrian Wilson and Quentin Harris were basically serving as Co-GMs while Keim was on leave. Harris was previously the Director of Pro Scouting and promoted to a VP of Player Personnel. The title Wilson officially held when he departed was VP of Pro Scouting. Wilson was a regional scout when he first became part of the front office. I don’t believe my post said college scouting. Since keruaoc9 didn’t name his guys I presume they were area scouts. Ossenfort started at the top.

Google’s response to departed scouts “Since the end of the 2023 season, the Arizona Cardinals' scouting department has seen significant turnover, including the departure of three top-level personnel:

• Quentin Harris: Vice president of player personnel.
• Dru Grigson: Director of player personnel.
• Josh Scobey: Director of college scouting.

New Hires (Since January 2023)
The Cardinals have added new personnel to bolster their scouting department:

• Joe Douglas: Hired in late 2025 to a role in the scouting department.
• Jacob Buffa: Also hired in late 2025 to a role in the scouting department.
• Dave Sears: Hired as Assistant General Manager in January 2023.
• Faith Lee: Serves as a Player Personnel Coordinator.
• Josh Pierrejean: Hired as a Scouting Assistant.
• Tyler Haskins: Hired as a Scouting Assistant.
• Andrew Caskin: Hired as a Pro Scout.
• Andrew Ford: Hired as a Pro Scout.
• Zach Devlin: Hired as an Area Scout.
• Keegan Leyrer: Hired as an Area Scout.

The Cards typically don’t announce scouts leaving except retirements. I personally resent being attacked as posting “false” information. It’s certainly fine to disagree with things I write. These days I’m just a guy. I certainly have made errors but saying “failed to check” is an assumption and not valid. This seems to be a personal vendetta which I’m trying to end, but keruaoc9 seems unwilling to cease. If the moderators checked he specifically goes after literally I post. Even not responding hasn’t worked. I hope this data indicates my position was justified. I apologize to those of you who have to put up with this.

 

[kerouac9]

I really wanted to avoid this but since I’m basically being called a liar I’m left with little choice. Maybe the rules of the site should be amended to end this bs. Such comments are clearly personal attacks. Adrian Wilson and Quentin Harris were basically serving as Co-GMs while Keim was on leave. Harris was previously the Director of Pro Scouting and promoted to a VP of Player Personnel. The title Wilson officially held when he departed was VP of Pro Scouting. Wilson was a regional scout when he first became part of the front office. I don’t believe my post said college scouting. Since keruaoc9 didn’t name his guys I presume they were area scouts. Ossenfort started at the top.

Google’s response to departed scouts “Since the end of the 2023 season, the Arizona Cardinals' scouting department has seen significant turnover, including the departure of three top-level personnel:

• Quentin Harris: Vice president of player personnel.
• Dru Grigson: Director of player personnel.
• Josh Scobey: Director of college scouting.

New Hires (Since January 2023)
The Cardinals have added new personnel to bolster their scouting department:

• Joe Douglas: Hired in late 2025 to a role in the scouting department.
• Jacob Buffa: Also hired in late 2025 to a role in the scouting department.
• Dave Sears: Hired as Assistant General Manager in January 2023.
• Faith Lee: Serves as a Player Personnel Coordinator.
• Josh Pierrejean: Hired as a Scouting Assistant.
• Tyler Haskins: Hired as a Scouting Assistant.
• Andrew Caskin: Hired as a Pro Scout.
• Andrew Ford: Hired as a Pro Scout.
• Zach Devlin: Hired as an Area Scout.
• Keegan Leyrer: Hired as an Area Scout.

The Cards typically don’t announce scouts leaving except retirements. I personally resent being attacked as posting “false” information. It’s certainly fine to disagree with things I write. These days I’m just a guy. I certainly have made errors but saying “failed to check” is an assumption and not valid. This seems to be a personal vendetta which I’m trying to end, but keruaoc9 seems unwilling to cease. If the moderators checked he specifically goes after literally I post. Even not responding hasn’t worked. I hope this data indicates my position was justified. I apologize to those of you who have to put up with this.

LOL AI responses nice job i even gave you the link to do your own research. Cmon bro.

The plagiarism machine is not data.

 

[Mulli]

Meet the new scouts same as the old scouts

 

[kerouac9]

Matt Harriss, director football administration- 7th season with the Cards

Glen Fox, director pro personnel, 13 seasons with the Cards

Ryan Gold, Director College Scouting-12th season with the Cards

Andrew Caskin, pro scout - 7th season

John Mancini, national scout- 13th season

Chris Culmer, western regional scout - 17th season

Luke Palko - Eastern regional scout - 17th season

Zac Canty, central regional scout - 14th season

 

[kerouac9]

Zach Devlin has been with the Cards for nine years buddy

 

[kerouac9]

Keegan Leyrer joined the Cards in May 2019

 

[slanidrac16]

I really wanted to avoid this but since I’m basically being called a liar I’m left with little choice. Maybe the rules of the site should be amended to end this bs. Such comments are clearly personal attacks. Adrian Wilson and Quentin Harris were basically serving as Co-GMs while Keim was on leave. Harris was previously the Director of Pro Scouting and promoted to a VP of Player Personnel. The title Wilson officially held when he departed was VP of Pro Scouting. Wilson was a regional scout when he first became part of the front office. I don’t believe my post said college scouting. Since keruaoc9 didn’t name his guys I presume they were area scouts. Ossenfort started at the top.

Google’s response to departed scouts “Since the end of the 2023 season, the Arizona Cardinals' scouting department has seen significant turnover, including the departure of three top-level personnel:

• Quentin Harris: Vice president of player personnel.
• Dru Grigson: Director of player personnel.
• Josh Scobey: Director of college scouting.

New Hires (Since January 2023)
The Cardinals have added new personnel to bolster their scouting department:

• Joe Douglas: Hired in late 2025 to a role in the scouting department.
• Jacob Buffa: Also hired in late 2025 to a role in the scouting department.
• Dave Sears: Hired as Assistant General Manager in January 2023.
• Faith Lee: Serves as a Player Personnel Coordinator.
• Josh Pierrejean: Hired as a Scouting Assistant.
• Tyler Haskins: Hired as a Scouting Assistant.
• Andrew Caskin: Hired as a Pro Scout.
• Andrew Ford: Hired as a Pro Scout.
• Zach Devlin: Hired as an Area Scout.
• Keegan Leyrer: Hired as an Area Scout.

The Cards typically don’t announce scouts leaving except retirements. I personally resent being attacked as posting “false” information. It’s certainly fine to disagree with things I write. These days I’m just a guy. I certainly have made errors but saying “failed to check” is an assumption and not valid. This seems to be a personal vendetta which I’m trying to end, but keruaoc9 seems unwilling to cease. If the moderators checked he specifically goes after literally I post. Even not responding hasn’t worked. I hope this data indicates my position was justified. I apologize to those of you who have to put up with this.

Harry, save all but one, nobody will ever accuse you of not doing your homework. Keep doing what you’re doing.
I suggest you act like a duck and leave certain individual poster roll off of you like water off a ducks ass.

 

[some dumb guy]

I really wanted to avoid this but since I’m basically being called a liar I’m left with little choice. Maybe the rules of the site should be amended to end this bs. Such comments are clearly personal attacks. Adrian Wilson and Quentin Harris were basically serving as Co-GMs while Keim was on leave. Harris was previously the Director of Pro Scouting and promoted to a VP of Player Personnel. The title Wilson officially held when he departed was VP of Pro Scouting. Wilson was a regional scout when he first became part of the front office. I don’t believe my post said college scouting. Since keruaoc9 didn’t name his guys I presume they were area scouts. Ossenfort started at the top.

Google’s response to departed scouts “Since the end of the 2023 season, the Arizona Cardinals' scouting department has seen significant turnover, including the departure of three top-level personnel:

• Quentin Harris: Vice president of player personnel.
• Dru Grigson: Director of player personnel.
• Josh Scobey: Director of college scouting.

New Hires (Since January 2023)
The Cardinals have added new personnel to bolster their scouting department:

• Joe Douglas: Hired in late 2025 to a role in the scouting department.
• Jacob Buffa: Also hired in late 2025 to a role in the scouting department.
• Dave Sears: Hired as Assistant General Manager in January 2023.
• Faith Lee: Serves as a Player Personnel Coordinator.
• Josh Pierrejean: Hired as a Scouting Assistant.
• Tyler Haskins: Hired as a Scouting Assistant.
• Andrew Caskin: Hired as a Pro Scout.
• Andrew Ford: Hired as a Pro Scout.
• Zach Devlin: Hired as an Area Scout.
• Keegan Leyrer: Hired as an Area Scout.

The Cards typically don’t announce scouts leaving except retirements. I personally resent being attacked as posting “false” information. It’s certainly fine to disagree with things I write. These days I’m just a guy. I certainly have made errors but saying “failed to check” is an assumption and not valid. This seems to be a personal vendetta which I’m trying to end, but keruaoc9 seems unwilling to cease. If the moderators checked he specifically goes after literally I post. Even not responding hasn’t worked. I hope this data indicates my position was justified. I apologize to those of you who have to put up with this.

The ignore feature works wonders

 

[slanidrac16]

Harry, save all but one, nobody will ever accuse you of not doing your homework. Keep doing what you’re doing.
I suggest you act like a duck and leave certain individual poster roll off of you like water off a ducks ass.

This forum invites rebuttals or differences of opinion. I think that is welcomed. There is a way to do it.

Unfortunately all too often a few individuals reply in condescending pompous manner which is totally unnecessary. And if you are upset by this last paragraph then you know who you are.

 

[Adrian]

One day it will change, not sure when but it will.

Don’t @ Me

 

[BullheadCardFan]

One day it will change, not sure when but it will.

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[Adrian]

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I’m a kool aid drinker. That’s all you need to know….

 

[TheCardFan]

Looks like Jacksonville passed us up recently - we are now 31st all time in regular season winning %

Rank	Team	Wins	Losses	Ties	Win %
1	Green Bay Packers	819	611	39	.572
2	Dallas Cowboys	576	432	7	.571
3	Baltimore Ravens	276	208	1	.570
4	New England Patriots	559	449	9	.555
5	Chicago Bears	809	652	42	.554
6	Kansas City Chiefs	553	452	12	.550
7	Minnesota Vikings	546	446	11	.550
8	Miami Dolphins	511	418	4	.550
9	San Francisco 49ers	642	531	16	.547
10	Pittsburgh Steelers	691	592	22	.538
11	Denver Broncos	532	475	10	.528
12	Seattle Seahawks	416	376	1	.525
13	Indianapolis Colts	572	519	8	.524
14	New York Giants	728	676	34	.518
15	Los Angeles Rams	636	611	21	.510
16	Las Vegas Raiders	512	494	11	.509
17	Cleveland Browns	567	560	14	.503
18	Philadelphia Eagles	649	645	27	.502
19	Los Angeles Chargers	505	501	11	.502
20	Washington Commanders	646	660	29	.495
21	Buffalo Bills	498	510	8	.494
22	Tennessee Titans	482	529	6	.477
23	New Orleans Saints	423	491	5	.463
24	Detroit Lions	615	717	34	.462
25	Cincinnati Bengals	409	490	5	.455
26	Carolina Panthers	227	273	1	.454
27	Houston Texans	174	214	1	.449
28	Atlanta Falcons	406	521	6	.438
29	New York Jets	436	573	8	.432
30	Jacksonville Jaguars	215	286	0	.429
31	Arizona Cardinals	596	826	41	.419
32	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	326	466	1	.412

 

[Mulli]

Bears! Lol

 

[PACardsFan]

Looks like Jacksonville passed us up recently - we are now 31st all time in regular season winning %

Rank	Team	Wins	Losses	Ties	Win %
1	Green Bay Packers	819	611	39	.572
2	Dallas Cowboys	576	432	7	.571
3	Baltimore Ravens	276	208	1	.570
4	New England Patriots	559	449	9	.555
5	Chicago Bears	809	652	42	.554
6	Kansas City Chiefs	553	452	12	.550
7	Minnesota Vikings	546	446	11	.550
8	Miami Dolphins	511	418	4	.550
9	San Francisco 49ers	642	531	16	.547
10	Pittsburgh Steelers	691	592	22	.538
11	Denver Broncos	532	475	10	.528
12	Seattle Seahawks	416	376	1	.525
13	Indianapolis Colts	572	519	8	.524
14	New York Giants	728	676	34	.518
15	Los Angeles Rams	636	611	21	.510
16	Las Vegas Raiders	512	494	11	.509
17	Cleveland Browns	567	560	14	.503
18	Philadelphia Eagles	649	645	27	.502
19	Los Angeles Chargers	505	501	11	.502
20	Washington Commanders	646	660	29	.495
21	Buffalo Bills	498	510	8	.494
22	Tennessee Titans	482	529	6	.477
23	New Orleans Saints	423	491	5	.463
24	Detroit Lions	615	717	34	.462
25	Cincinnati Bengals	409	490	5	.455
26	Carolina Panthers	227	273	1	.454
27	Houston Texans	174	214	1	.449
28	Atlanta Falcons	406	521	6	.438
29	New York Jets	436	573	8	.432
30	Jacksonville Jaguars	215	286	0	.429
31	Arizona Cardinals	596	826	41	.419
32	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	326	466	1	.412

All the evidence ANYONE needs to understand that we will NEVER be a successful franchise until someone NOT named Bidwill owns the team.

 

[AZ Native]

Looks like Jacksonville passed us up recently - we are now 31st all time in regular season winning %

Rank	Team	Wins	Losses	Ties	Win %
1	Green Bay Packers	819	611	39	.572
2	Dallas Cowboys	576	432	7	.571
3	Baltimore Ravens	276	208	1	.570
4	New England Patriots	559	449	9	.555
5	Chicago Bears	809	652	42	.554
6	Kansas City Chiefs	553	452	12	.550
7	Minnesota Vikings	546	446	11	.550
8	Miami Dolphins	511	418	4	.550
9	San Francisco 49ers	642	531	16	.547
10	Pittsburgh Steelers	691	592	22	.538
11	Denver Broncos	532	475	10	.528
12	Seattle Seahawks	416	376	1	.525
13	Indianapolis Colts	572	519	8	.524
14	New York Giants	728	676	34	.518
15	Los Angeles Rams	636	611	21	.510
16	Las Vegas Raiders	512	494	11	.509
17	Cleveland Browns	567	560	14	.503
18	Philadelphia Eagles	649	645	27	.502
19	Los Angeles Chargers	505	501	11	.502
20	Washington Commanders	646	660	29	.495
21	Buffalo Bills	498	510	8	.494
22	Tennessee Titans	482	529	6	.477
23	New Orleans Saints	423	491	5	.463
24	Detroit Lions	615	717	34	.462
25	Cincinnati Bengals	409	490	5	.455
26	Carolina Panthers	227	273	1	.454
27	Houston Texans	174	214	1	.449
28	Atlanta Falcons	406	521	6	.438
29	New York Jets	436	573	8	.432
30	Jacksonville Jaguars	215	286	0	.429
31	Arizona Cardinals	596	826	41	.419
32	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	326	466	1	.412

And TB has 2 SBs.

 

[pemory09]

Hey, we’re 2nd all-time in tie games!

 

[TheCardFan]

Since the Cardinals moved to Arizona:

Rank	Team	Win %	Defining Successes
1	New England Patriots	.608	The Brady/Belichick dynasty (2001–2019)
2	Pittsburgh Steelers	.584	Consistent winning seasons under Noll, Cowher, and Tomlin
3	Green Bay Packers	.579	Successive HOF play from Favre and Rodgers
4	Baltimore Ravens*	.572	Two Super Bowls and constant playoff contention (since 1996)
5	Kansas City Chiefs	.565	1990s Martyball and the current Mahomes dynasty
6	San Francisco 49ers	.558	The end of the Montana/Young era and modern revival
7	Philadelphia Eagles	.551	Sustained success in the Reid and Sirianni eras
8	Denver Broncos	.547	Elway's back-to-back titles and Peyton Manning’s peak
9	Seattle Seahawks	.541	The "Legion of Boom" and Holmgren years
10	Indianapolis Colts	.539	The Manning era (the winningest decade in NFL history)
11	Dallas Cowboys	.535	The 1990s dynasty vs. 21st-century inconsistency
12	New Orleans Saints	.528	Complete transformation during the Brees/Payton era
13	Minnesota Vikings	.524	Consistent regular-season winners; rarely "bad"
14	Buffalo Bills	.518	Early 90s dominance and the current Josh Allen era
15	Miami Dolphins	.512	The end of Shula's run and modern wild-card success
16	Los Angeles Rams	.504	"Greatest Show on Turf" and Sean McVay's success
17	Tennessee Titans	.496	Highs of the early 2000s offset by recent rebuilds
18	New York Giants	.487	High peaks (2 Super Bowls) but many losing seasons
19	Los Angeles Chargers	.481	The LT/Rivers years vs. 1990s struggles
20	Chicago Bears	.475	Success in the late 80s/mid-2000s; struggle for a QB
21	Atlanta Falcons	.469	Highs of the Mike Vick and Matt Ryan years
22	Carolina Panthers*	.454	Two SB appearances but frequent bottom-tier finishes
23	Cincinnati Bengals	.448	1990s "Bungles" era balanced by Burrow/Palmer years
24	Washington Commanders	.442	Decline from the Gibbs era to decades of rebuilding
25	Houston Texans*	.432	Slow start as an expansion team; recent resurgence
26	Las Vegas Raiders	.429	Early 2000s success followed by two decades of struggle
27	New York Jets	.421	Brief flashes of success (Parcells, Rex Ryan)
28	Jacksonville Jaguars*	.415	Early expansion dominance followed by long droughts
29	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	.411	High "boom" (2 rings) but very low "bust" periods
30	Arizona Cardinals	.405	Frequent bottom-feeder status with occasional peaks
31	Detroit Lions	.398	Decades of losing seasons until the 2020s turnaround
32	Cleveland Browns	.381	The "Expansion Era" (post-1999) has kept them at the bottom

 

[TheCardFan]

Total number of losing seasons since Cardinals moved to Arizona
37 seasons

Rank	Team	Losing Seasons	Notes
1	Cleveland Browns	29	Includes 1988–1995 & 1999–2025 (Inactive 1996–98)
2	Arizona Cardinals	26	Added another losing season in 2025 (3-14)
3	New York Jets	25	Extended streak to 10 straight losing seasons in 2025
4	Detroit Lions	24	Finished 2025 with a winning record (9-8)
5	Cincinnati Bengals	23	Added 2025 (6-11)
6	Washington Commanders	23	Added 2025 (5-12)
7	Atlanta Falcons	22	Added 2025 (8-9)
8	Las Vegas Raiders	21	Added 2025 (3-14)
9	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	20	Added 2025 (8-9)
10	Jacksonville Jaguars	19	Since 1995; finished 2025 with winning record (13-4)
11	Chicago Bears	18	Finished 2025 with winning record (11-6)
12	Carolina Panthers	18	Since 1995; added 2025 (8-9)
13	New York Giants	18	Added 2025 (4-13)
14	Los Angeles Rams	17	Finished 2025 with winning record (12-5)
15	Tennessee Titans	17	Added 2025 (3-14)
16	New Orleans Saints	16	Added 2025 (6-11)
17	Miami Dolphins	16	Added 2025 (7-10)
18	Los Angeles Chargers	15	Finished 2025 with winning record (11-6)
19	Buffalo Bills	14	Finished 2025 with winning record (12-5)
20	Houston Texans	13	Since 2002; finished 2025 with winning record (12-5)
21	San Francisco 49ers	13	Finished 2025 with winning record (12-5)
22	Denver Broncos	13	Finished 2025 with winning record (14-3)
23	Indianapolis Colts	13	Added 2025 (8-9)
24	New England Patriots	11	Finished 2025 with winning record (14-3)
25	Seattle Seahawks	11	Finished 2025 with winning record (14-3)
26	Minnesota Vikings	11	Finished 2025 with winning record (9-8)
27	Dallas Cowboys	11	Added 2025 (7-9-1)
28	Philadelphia Eagles	10	Finished 2025 with winning record (11-6)
29	Kansas City Chiefs	10	Added 2025 (6-11)
30	Green Bay Packers	9	Finished 2025 with winning record (9-8-1)
31	Baltimore Ravens	8	Since 1996; added 2025 (8-9)
32	Pittsburgh Steelers	4	Finished 2025 with winning record (10-7)

 

[TheCardFan]

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[Mulli]

Chiefs!?! Come on now. Invalid!!!

 

[TheCardFan]

Chiefs!?! Come on now. Invalid!!!

Based on non-playoff teams only

 

[Mulli]

Based on non-playoff teams only

How are they more miserable than Lions fans? Ugh