Bandwagoners having a rough year off.
Why can’t we win?
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Bandwagoners having a rough year off.
Spent a lot on jerseys and hats. I know Collinsworth sounds really bummed
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They have to see Taylor Swift all the time?
That is better than listening to her songs?
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Fair
We’re # 1, we’re #1!!
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The problem
The bones of the organization aren’t any worse than the other family-owned (not acquired by a billionaire) teams in the NFL. And from a market perspective we are fine as there’s plenty of money in Arizona. So there must be other reasons and here’s my thoughts:
1. Building the stadium in Glendale was a colossal failure and the other investments Bidwill family made in the area went belly up. The stadium itself was never supposed to be the big money maker for the Bidwill family, it was the development of the surrounding area which the family had tremendous money invested in. Most if not all of that disappeared with the GFC so Bidwill’s never truly obtained big wealth outside the team. I’d also suspect being in the west valley has reduced gate revenue 15-20% vs a downtown or East Valley site which over a couple decades is a lot of dough. That being said the Yorks made this same mistake and the Niners are fine.
2. Bill Sr. turned the team over to the wrong kid. Michael got the team because he was deemed the “smartest” because of his legal career. But lawyers often aren’t great business people. Lawyers are in constant CYA and ‘paralysis by analysis’ mode and make safe hires often based on resume and degree not pure talent. Lawyers are deliberate in firing and over-analytical in every aspect. Meanwhile the best businesspeople and owners delegate like crazy and take big swings.
3. The above permeates the overall culture of the franchise. It’s a very undynamic place to work and doesn’t really attract high-level talent outside of people who just want to live in Phoenix or will take any NFL job.
4. Michael Bidwill tying into the above again doesn’t have a great feel for being an NFL owner. He’s socially awkward and doesn’t have really any real friends nor wife or children so will never truly understand what leaving a real legacy means. His drive in running the Cardinals is more trying to fix the past not realizing that doing that kinda makes one ignore the future. He is significantly more obsessed with people not conflating the name Bidwill with incompetence or stupidity than he is making the Cardinals a benchmark of Arizona civic pride. He sees his role absolutely backwards: making the Cardinals something this city can be proud of is the only thing that’ll clear the family name.
Ultimately we simply have a bad owner that most people don’t want to work for and the ones who do he has a bad feel on who is good and who’s not.
So here we are, hoping enough egg builds up on the family’s face that they decide to cash their lottery ticket and a talented billionaire takes over.
1. Building the stadium in Glendale was a colossal failure and the other investments Bidwill family made in the area went belly up. The stadium itself was never supposed to be the big money maker for the Bidwill family, it was the development of the surrounding area which the family had tremendous money invested in. Most if not all of that disappeared with the GFC so Bidwill’s never truly obtained big wealth outside the team. I’d also suspect being in the west valley has reduced gate revenue 15-20% vs a downtown or East Valley site which over a couple decades is a lot of dough. That being said the Yorks made this same mistake and the Niners are fine.
2. Bill Sr. turned the team over to the wrong kid. Michael got the team because he was deemed the “smartest” because of his legal career. But lawyers often aren’t great business people. Lawyers are in constant CYA and ‘paralysis by analysis’ mode and make safe hires often based on resume and degree not pure talent. Lawyers are deliberate in firing and over-analytical in every aspect. Meanwhile the best businesspeople and owners delegate like crazy and take big swings.
3. The above permeates the overall culture of the franchise. It’s a very undynamic place to work and doesn’t really attract high-level talent outside of people who just want to live in Phoenix or will take any NFL job.
4. Michael Bidwill tying into the above again doesn’t have a great feel for being an NFL owner. He’s socially awkward and doesn’t have really any real friends nor wife or children so will never truly understand what leaving a real legacy means. His drive in running the Cardinals is more trying to fix the past not realizing that doing that kinda makes one ignore the future. He is significantly more obsessed with people not conflating the name Bidwill with incompetence or stupidity than he is making the Cardinals a benchmark of Arizona civic pride. He sees his role absolutely backwards: making the Cardinals something this city can be proud of is the only thing that’ll clear the family name.
Ultimately we simply have a bad owner that most people don’t want to work for and the ones who do he has a bad feel on who is good and who’s not.
So here we are, hoping enough egg builds up on the family’s face that they decide to cash their lottery ticket and a talented billionaire takes over.
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kerouac9
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Well here’s what I have to say to this:
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When you say bones do you mean garbage locker room? Casitas? No QB, RB, impact defensive players, GM?
MaoTosiFanClub
The problem
Practice facility, stadium, etc.
In a way we have an inherent advantage in that most players and coaches would rather live here than probably 75% of other NFL markets including half our division.
New locker room 2029!
kerouac9
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What does GFC stand for?
MaoTosiFanClub
The problem
Great Financial Crisis. Bidwills and partners lost a bunch of money on real estate deals out by the stadium
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The problem
Also in a top 10 NFL market for players.
What? No way
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The problem
More current and former players live here than anywhere except Miami, Dallas, Houston, LA.
Do you mean current players who can’t get enough Amazon shifts?
Ok that is mean.
Free agency paints a different picture right?
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smart
Did anyone see Milton Williams being New England after the game today.
He seems happy.
He seems happy.
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