Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[SirStefan32]

22 year olds whose bodies are still developing can.

No, they cannot, unless they've never lifted before. In the first year, it is possible to add 20lb, maybe even 25. Every subsequent year, that's cut (roughly) in half. Assuming he's done some strength training in college, his ceiling is about five pounds a year. You can gain a bit more if you also add fat, but 15lb in an offseason (or even a year) with 80%-20% muscle to fat distribution is physiologically impossible.

EDIT:

If Luka said the same, I'd probably believe him because I know he never touched a dumbell in Europe, and it doesn't sound like he ever took it seriously while he was in Dallas. He is probably closer to 20-25% body fat percentage while Oso is probably at 10-15% body fat percentage and it's obvious he's done weight training.

 

[Chaplin]

I'm really rooting for Oso. But he NEEDS to develop a jumpshot. He'll be out of the league next summer if he doesn't.

 

[SunsTzu]

I have to take him at his word, unless you can outrun him.

He has the fastest 3/4 court sprint time of the guys on the team that ran it at the combine(the ones I looked up anyway).

 

[Adrian]

We have competition for Malcom Bragdon

Suns Eye Former 6th Man of the Year as Bradley Beal Buyout Looms

The Phoenix Suns look to boost their backcourt by pursuing Malcolm Brogdon in the wake of recent roster changes.

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[outcent13]

I don’t know these guys lose a lot of muscle just playing an nba season I would imagine. Not too worried about it though, if he gets too strong he’s gonna break a lot of backboards with that jump shot.

 

[GatorAZ]

I'd love to know the time frame for Oso's comment. There is zero chance someone already in great shape can add 12lb of muscle and only three pounds of fat in less than a year.

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The muscle/fat ratio is always exaggerated when you hear that kind of stuff from athletes. If you pick up a 15 lb barbell it seems impossible to add that much muscle in 3 months (season ended in April).

 

[Covert Rain]

One thing is for sure, we'll be able to see how much KD influenced this team, both on and off the court. When KD sat, Bud never altered the offense, and without KD that offense tailored around him was putrid. Will not having KD, as well as anyone who coached him, make a difference on the court? Will we see Book return to his alpha ways?

To me, that's a huge question mark. It's not as simple as, "we subtracted KD, we're going to be worse." We may very well be worse, and expectations will be low. But I don't think we can make any kind of accurate prediction based on many factors.

I am not so sure. When you have the turnover in staff like the Suns did and now the player turnover, I am not sure you will really know that at all. I mean, IMO, you can't say Bud wasn't a bad coach and deserved to be fired and turnaround and say will it was mostly KD's fault. I think the Suns have plenty of blame to go around in how this team played the past couple seasons.

Now if everything was the same except for KD? OK.

 

[Chaplin]

I am not so sure. When you have the turnover in staff like the Suns did and now the player turnover, I am not sure you will really know that at all. I mean, IMO, you can't say Bud wasn't a bad coach and deserved to be fired and turnaround and say will it was mostly KD's fault. I think the Suns have plenty of blame to go around in how this team played the past couple seasons.

Now if everything was the same except for KD? OK.

It can be both.

 

[Covert Rain]

It can be both.

It can but there is no way to know with that much change how much. IMO he was very well behaved here compared to other stops. The local media echoed that multiple times.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I am not so sure. When you have the turnover in staff like the Suns did and now the player turnover, I am not sure you will really know that at all. I mean, IMO, you can't say Bud wasn't a bad coach and deserved to be fired and turnaround and say will it was mostly KD's fault. I think the Suns have plenty of blame to go around in how this team played the past couple seasons.

Now if everything was the same except for KD? OK.

Coach, gm, owner and player. All to blame.

 

[Chaplin]

It can but there is no way to know with that much change how much. IMO he was very well behaved here compared to other stops. The local media echoed that multiple times.

Well behaved? What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Covert Rain]

Well behaved? What does that have to do with anything?

"One thing is for sure, we'll be able to see how much KD influenced this team, both on and off the court."

Huh? His behavior would influence the team both on and off the court. Based your statement...everything?!

 

[Proximo]

Coach, gm, owner and player. All to blame.

Sure.

The interesting thing to me is the best the Suns ever were with KD was the first playoff series under Monty. The supporting cast was almost non existent - but that was still the best performing team with him on it.

To me that says a lot of the problem was the coaching.

But even so KD did have some blame. His instance or somebody's insistence that our offense go primarily through ISO'g him was a big problem, because it just wasn't that efficent. We would eat up most of the shot clock and many of the other players weren't involved in the game.

I am VERY curious to see how the Rockets look with him. That is a team that was absolutely terrible in the halfcourt offense. I want to see if KD actually bogs down their offense by becoming the focus of it and allowing the D to concentrate on him. I think that will happen, and that was a large part of our offensive struggles.

 

[Chaplin]

"One thing is for sure, we'll be able to see how much KD influenced this team, both on and off the court."

Huh? His behavior would influence the team both on and off the court. Based your statement...everything?!

You make him out to be a deviant or something. It was meant more about his lackadaisical demeanor and how it rubbed off on everyone. It’s ok to disagree, it’s perfectly plausible that his laid back attitude didn’t affect the team, but imo it sure looked like it did. When you say “behavior” that implies something bad or untoward—it’s ok for him to be like that, it just isn’t conducive to winning basketball as was proven last year.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

kd non appreciation thread is lit

 

[SirStefan32]

I don't think KD was malicious or anything like that. I just think his personality wasn't a good fit. He is essentially a stoner who likes to play basketball. In some scenarios, that might be OK, but here it rubbed off on everyone else. Booker is a completely different player with Chris Paul than with Kevin Durant (That's Booker's fault, not KD's). On top of that, you had Beal who was always injured, and looked downright depressed at times. Add the terrible coaching, and you have what we had to watch last year. I don't blame KD- he is who he is, and who he has been his entire career. I am glad he is gone, but I don't think he is a bad guy- he is just who he is- a happy-go-lucky stoner who happens to be pretty good at basketball.

 

[taz02]

I'd love to know the time frame for Oso's comment. There is zero chance someone already in great shape can add 12lb of muscle and only three pounds of fat in less than a year.

I read somewhere Wembanyama gained 20lbs in one season. I really have no idea if gaining 15lbs of muscle is possible, but it seems it would depend on how big you are to begin with. Adding 15lbs to 150lb guy is different adding 15 lbs at 250.

 

[Proximo]

So why is Beal still not bought out? If gambo says 48 hrs that means that was the plan.

Is it possible something has changed, like maybe lakers are rethinking trading bron now that they know Beal will choose the clips?

I know not likely but the thought crossed my mind.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

So why is Beal still not bought out? If gambo says 48 hrs that means that was the plan.

Is it possible something has changed, like maybe lakers are rethinking trading bron now that they know Beal will choose the clips?

I know not likely but the thought crossed my mind.

could be beal still hasn't found his next spot

 

[Hoop Head]

So why is Beal still not bought out? If gambo says 48 hrs that means that was the plan.

Is it possible something has changed, like maybe lakers are rethinking trading bron now that they know Beal will choose the clips?

I know not likely but the thought crossed my mind.

Gambo said to expect a decision. If Beal isn't bought out then he won't be. Some took it as a clock on the buyout but I believe that was wishful thinking.

 

[Mainstreet]

Gambo said to expect a decision. If Beal isn't bought out then he won't be. Some took it as a clock on the buyout but I believe that was wishful thinking.

The thought occurred to me that a trade might still be an option, involving teams dumping bad contracts in the mix.

 

[Proximo]

Gambo said to expect a decision. If Beal isn't bought out then he won't be. Some took it as a clock on the buyout but I believe that was wishful thinking.

that certainly isn’t my wishful thinking.

There are several reports that Beal is going to sign with the clippers after he is bought out. Maybe that will still happen, but I am surprised it didn’t happen today.

 

[Proximo]

could be beal still hasn't found his next spot

That would not stop the buyout, unless you think he is refusing it till he has a deal setup to sign somewhere else.

 

[95pro]

That would not stop the buyout, unless you think he is refusing it till he has a deal setup to sign somewhere else.

I thought I heard that in the rumors floating around social media. That he’d like to make that up, whatever he loses in a buyout. Or maybe that’s what the media was pushing. Idr

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I read somewhere Wembanyama gained 20lbs in one season. I really have no idea if gaining 15lbs of muscle is possible, but it seems it would depend on how big you are to begin with. Adding 15lbs to 150lb guy is different adding 15 lbs at 250.

Also, these guys are 6’10 and taller. Adding 15lbs across that skeleton is A LOT different than across most of our frames. So while I believe Sir Stefan knows what he’s talking about, I’m not sure it translates from
what he’s accustomed to for these giants.