Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[BirdGangThing]

It absolutely will. The problem is it is hard to play book and him at the same time.

beal couldn't even hold up as the 3rd wheel - fragile af - when washington shipped him here they had to pay extra for the bubble wrap - he wasn't banging near as much as kd or book but he literally doesn't think before he jumps - just collides - wasn't even starting and still couldn't stay on the court

 

[95pro]

So even if we get below the 2nd apron by letting go Martin, Micic, What else is there to aggregate?

KD probably wont be combined unless more teams are involved.
Book staying.
Beal untradeable

Left on the books are:
Allen
Oneal
Richards
Dunn
Oso

I dont see us moving any of those six in a trade package together. I only see either Oneal or Allen being shipped off with someone.

 

[Hoop Head]

So even if we get below the 2nd apron by letting go Martin, Micic, What else is there to aggregate?

KD probably wont be combined unless more teams are involved.
Book staying.
Beal untradeable

Left on the books are:
Allen
Oneal
Richards
Dunn
Oso

I dont see us moving any of those six in a trade package together. I only see either Oneal or Allen being shipped off with someone.

I'm worried about Dunn being used to move Beal if we somehow become able. That would kill any optimism or goodwill I have for this front office.

 

[Proximo]

beal couldn't even hold up as the 3rd wheel - fragile af - when washington shipped him here they had to pay extra for the bubble wrap - he wasn't banging near as much as kd or book but he literally doesn't think before he jumps - just collides - wasn't even starting and still couldn't stay on the court

Ok, you don't like him.

Here is the question, is keeping him or waiving him better for the team? I think keeping him is much better. I especially don't want to stretch him, that is f'ng up our cap for no good reason.

Would every team in the league offer him the minimum - yes. That tells you he has some value, waiving him and still paying him is stupid.

Even if all he is is a bench player and a guy you plug in when Devin is hurt, that still has value.

 

[Proximo]

I'm worried about Dunn being used to move Beal if we somehow become able. That would kill any optimism or goodwill I have for this front office.

They aren't doing that.

I just read a report we were asking the coaching candidates how they would use beal if they were hired. That clearly says to me, if they can't find a trade he is staying.

 

[Proximo]

Just heard we are also looking into possibly acquiring Porzingas.

I have very mixed feelings on that. If we can get him extreemly cheap, maybe - but the cap space he eats is a problem. Maybe in a deal for beal.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Ok, you don't like him.

it's not that i don't like him - he seems like a good guy and he plays hard - i said he's unreliable due to injuries

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd like him as a Sixth Man, especially given what his salary would be if stretched. I would like to see that tried before stretching him as that is the worst case scenario, IMO.

I'm willing to try either way if he responds well to the new head coach but I'm not counting on Beal to be a starter.

 

[Finito]

I am aware our picks haven't been that great. However let me remind you some of the players on the board we could have - and many argued at the time we should have but did not pick.

Luka, Halliburton, DeArron Fox, Jalen Brunson.

How different would the team be if we had made just one of those picks?

I am really tired of people not wanting picks - virtually every superstar - a requirement for a title - is acquired via the draft.

Right. It’s crazy how some organizations seem like they just don’t miss and others miss all the time. It’s almost like investing in scouting and player development matters

 

[Mainstreet]

I am aware our picks haven't been that great. However let me remind you some of the players on the board we could have - and many argued at the time we should have but did not pick.

Luka, Halliburton, DeArron Fox, Jalen Brunson.

How different would the team be if we had made just one of those picks?

I am really tired of people not wanting picks - virtually every superstar - a requirement for a title - is acquired via the draft.

You are preaching to the choir.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Just heard we are also looking into possibly acquiring Porzingas.

I have very mixed feelings on that. If we can get him extreemly cheap, maybe - but the cap space he eats is a problem. Maybe in a deal for beal.

Zero interest - he doesn't fit our present or future.

 

[Proximo]

it's not that i don't like him - he seems like a good guy and he plays hard - i said he's unreliable due to injuries

Yeah, good thing we aren't going to have to rely on him next 2 years because we aren't even making the playoffs.

I would rather get him completely off the cap in 2 years when maybe we have a few ascending players if we are lucky instead of having is salary eating up some of our cap because we were in a rush to get rid of him for no particular reason other than I guess spite.

 

[Hoop Head]

Yeah, good thing we aren't going to have to rely on him next 2 years because we aren't even making the playoffs.

I would rather get him completely off the cap in 2 years when maybe we have a few ascending players if we are lucky instead of having is salary eating up some of our cap because we were in a rush to get rid of him for no particular reason other than I guess spite.

In Beal's defense, he was the veteran most mentioned by Dunn and Oso from what I saw last season. They almost always mentioned him in some way when giving interviews around the training facility.

I don't believe Beal is a cancerous presence outside of his contract. That is inexcusable but it's our burden for 2 more years.

 

[Mainstreet]

A wild thought entered my mind. Maybe the Suns can make nice with Deandre Ayton.

He is in the final year of his contract for $35,550,814. Life wasn't so bad back then.

 

[Covert Rain]

A wild thought entered my mind. Maybe the Suns can make nice with Deandre Ayton.

He is in the final year of his contract for $35,550,814. Life wasn't so bad back then.

Not a chance. He is still a head case. He and his team still overvalue his worth. He still vanishes on a regular basis. You will get no argument from me on his impact to defense but the negatives outweigh the positives.

 

[Cheesebeef]

A wild thought entered my mind. Maybe the Suns can make nice with Deandre Ayton.

He is in the final year of his contract for $35,550,814. Life wasn't so bad back then.

You mean when we had the most humiliating Game 7 loss and one of the biggest playoff collapses of all time, especially considering our record, which was followed up by a continued downward trend, struggling to a 30-26 the next season?

Not to mention after watching Ayton literally quit on the floor in the playoffs and then totally quitting sitting out a must win elimination Game 6 against the Nuggets?

The selective amnesia some of y’all have is so confounding to me.

 

[Mainstreet]

Not a chance. He is still a head case. He and his team still overvalue his worth. He still vanishes on a regular basis. You will get no argument from me on his impact to defense but the negatives outweigh the positives.

The negatives are why the Suns might be able to trade for him. He can't be happy in Portland. The hope is at some point he matures at some point. Anyway, it's only a thought.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

It's throwing crap against the wall season, which is a function of desperation.

 

[Mainstreet]

You mean when we had the most humiliating Game 7 loss and one of the biggest playoff collapses of all time, especially considering our record, which was followed up by a continued downward trend, struggling to a 30-26 the next season?

Not to mention after watching Ayton literally quit on the floor in the playoffs and then totally quitting sitting out a must win elimination Game 6?

The selective amnesia some of y’all have is so confounding to me.

Those were the good old days when the Suns were relevant. Now look at them.

 

[Mainstreet]

It's throwing crap against the wall season, which is a function of desperation.

The Suns ownership put themselves in this position. Now it's trying to make lemonade out of lemons if they want to put a credible team on the court.

I hope the Suns are thinking outside the box because that's where they are.

 

[Chaplin]

Those were the good old days when the Suns were relevant. Now look at them.

Yeah they were relevant, but it was in spite of Ayton, not because of him.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah they were relevant, but it was in spite of Ayton, not because of him.

Sometimes a team has to live with players that don't tow the company line.

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[Chaplin]

Sometimes a team has to live with players that don't tow the company line.

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Um, nice play and all, but you're supporting your premise with a clip of Ayton AND Jae Crowder??

 

[Covert Rain]

The negatives are why the Suns might be able to trade for him. He can't be happy in Portland. The hope is at some point he matures at some point. Anyway, it's only a thought.

Sure...the negatives would make it easier to get him. The flipside is that might be also why Portland would want to get rid of him. This has nothing to do with how easy it would be to get him.

Ayton is not going to change or be humbled. Check out his comments this season. He is entering year 8 in the NBA. Ayton isn't changing. He was a negative in the locker room. Book was beyond frustrated with him. There is no way that is a net positive for the Suns.

 

[Mainstreet]

Um, nice play and all, but you're supporting your premise with a clip of Ayton AND Jae Crowder??

I'm saying, the Suns need to think outside the box. Hopefully the new GM and coach do so.

The Suns were worse without those two players.