Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[Chaplin]

I'm saying, the Suns need to think outside the box. Hopefully the new GM and coach do so.

The Suns were worse without those two players.

They ain't going to be better with Ayton. It's not an all or nothing thing.

If you were saying to sign CP3 again, then maybe there is some smoke to that fire. But Ayton? I don't see why anyone would want him back in a Suns uniform. I'd rather keep KD and run it back. So not a high bar.

 

[Mainstreet]

Sure...the negatives would make it easier to get him. The flipside is that might be also why Portland would want to get rid of him. This has nothing to do with how easy it would be to get him.

Ayton is not going to change or be humbled. Check out his comments this season. He is entering year 8 in the NBA. Ayton isn't changing. He was a negative in the locker room. Book was beyond frustrated with him. There is no way that is a net positive for the Suns.

I'm willing to explore a range of centers. Sometimes people do get humbled and change.

This is just one more option to think about. The Suns had to give up a first round pick to trade Nurkic. The grass isn't always greener.

 

[Covert Rain]

I'm willing to explore a range of centers. Sometimes people do get humbled and change.

This is just one more option to think about. The Suns had to give up a first round pick to trade Nurkic. The grass isn't always greener.

The grass was brown with Ayton. Stories were abundant that he frustrated his own team and was cancerous to that lockeroom. His team felt like he regularly quit on them. It would be incredibly dumb for us to make a move like this without Ayton showing FIRST he has changed. If not? We are just giving up assets to bring a cancer back to the team.

 

[Proximo]

A wild thought entered my mind. Maybe the Suns can make nice with Deandre Ayton.

He is in the final year of his contract for $35,550,814. Life wasn't so bad back then.

That is wild. Is it not clear to you he is only playing ball for the check?

His attitude is just poison for a team that wants to be a winner, because he could care less.

Well even if you have forgotten, I am sure Book and Ishbia have not. There is zero chance he is coming back.

 

[Mainstreet]

They ain't going to be better with Ayton. It's not an all or nothing thing.

If you were saying to sign CP3 again, then maybe there is some smoke to that fire. But Ayton? I don't see why anyone would want him back in a Suns uniform. I'd rather keep KD and run it back. So not a high bar.

I don't want the Suns to extend Durant, so no thanks about running it back with him.

IMO, keeping all options on the table is smart, then choose the best. Ayton is simply another option to look at if he has minimal trade value.

 

[Hoop Head]

Yeah they were relevant, but it was in spite of Ayton, not because of him.

Ayton didn't check out until KD came here. Literally everything went down the toilet when Durant showed up. That is the nexus point. There a blips here and there before and after but the major problem was what we sacrificed to bring him in. And where are we now? The lottery without a pick. Brilliant!

 

[Proximo]

They ain't going to be better with Ayton. It's not an all or nothing thing.

If you were saying to sign CP3 again, then maybe there is some smoke to that fire. But Ayton? I don't see why anyone would want him back in a Suns uniform. I'd rather keep KD and run it back. So not a high bar.

Look as far as CP3, I am sure his mind is willing, but his body will not allow him to be an asset to any NBA team at this point.

It makes zero sense to bring him back, unless he wants to be an assistant coach.

 

[Hoop Head]

They ain't going to be better with Ayton. It's not an all or nothing thing.

If you were saying to sign CP3 again, then maybe there is some smoke to that fire. But Ayton? I don't see why anyone would want him back in a Suns uniform. I'd rather keep KD and run it back. So not a high bar.

He didn't suggest we add Ayton now. You jumped right over his point to reframe the discussion.

 

[Proximo]

Ayton didn't check out until KD came here. Literally everything went down the toilet when Durant showed up. That is the nexus point. There a blips here and there before and after but the major problem was what we sacrificed to bring him in. And where are we now? The lottery without a pick. Brilliant!

What do you call his time in Portland, he looks pretty damn checked out there where he had every opportunity in the world to excel.

It's amazing how spotty peoples memory can be, Ayton from day 1 would disappear in games, long before KD showed up.

 

[Chaplin]

Ayton didn't check out until KD came here. Literally everything went down the toilet when Durant showed up. That is the nexus point. There a blips here and there before and after but the major problem was what we sacrificed to bring him in. And where are we now? The lottery without a pick. Brilliant!

Wrong. Ayton had been a problem since AT LEAST his stupid suspension, well before KD was here.

I swear the short memories of this board are frustrating as hell.

 

[Hoop Head]

Look as far as CP3, I am sure his mind is willing, but his body will not allow him to be an asset to any NBA team at this point.

It makes zero sense to bring him back, unless he wants to be an assistant coach.

I'd take him on a minimum in a backup role but that's it. I think he does that in San Antonio for a little more than the minimum and helps see through their rebuild and Castle's ascension. Stephon Castle has the makings of SGA and look what he's become since he shared the floor with CP3.

 

[Chaplin]

He didn't suggest we add Ayton now. You jumped right over his point to reframe the discussion.

You interpret his implication one way, I interpret another. Stay in your lane or simply not reply.

 

[Mainstreet]

The grass was brown with Ayton. Stories were abundant that he frustrated his own team and was cancerous to that lockeroom. His team felt like he regularly quit on them. It would be incredibly dumb for us to make a move like this without Ayton showing FIRST he has changed. If not? We are just giving up assets to bring a cancer back to the team.

The Suns could include Allen in the trade. I'm just being sarcastic here, but that Ayton trade was terrible.

Suns even gave up Camara

 

[Hoop Head]

What do you call his time in Portland, he looks pretty damn checked out there where he had every opportunity in the world to excel.

It's amazing how spotty peoples memory can be, Ayton from day 1 would disappear in games, long before KD showed up.

He checked out in games but not sitting out must win playoff games until Durant showed up. I'm no fan of Ayton, at all, but he was productive until he was kicked down the ladder here and made the 4th wheel.

 

[Proximo]

I don't want the Suns to extend Durant, so no thanks about running it back with him.

IMO, keeping all options on the table is smart, then choose the best. Ayton is simply another option to look at if he has minimal trade value.

You should want the Suns to extend KD, that would only increase his trade value as long as he is still healthy.

Ayton has minimum trade value for a reason - I was a believer for way to long, but his time in Portland has made it clear, he is a bum.

 

[Hoop Head]

You interpret his implication one way, I interpret another. Stay in your lane or simply not reply.

This is a discussion and I replied. Did I hurt your feelings, Chap? I'm so sorry. Send me your cash app and I'll buy your next box of tissues.

 

[Chaplin]

This is a discussion and I replied. Did I hurt your feelings, Chap? I'm so sorry. Send me your cash app and I'll buy your next box of tissues.

LOL

Can you be any more immature? Stupid question, OF COURSE you can.

 

[Proximo]

He checked out in games but not sitting out must win playoff games until Durant showed up. I'm no fan of Ayton, at all, but he was productive until he was kicked down the ladder here and made the 4th wheel.

Well, yes when he was no longer the focus with Book it did take some wind out of his sails, but that isn't coming back. He has accepted he is not going to be a star and he is fine with it.

 

[Hoop Head]

Wrong. Ayton had been a problem since AT LEAST his stupid suspension, well before KD was here.

I swear the short memories of this board are frustrating as hell.

A problem, yes. I never said he wasn't. The problem was manageable until Durant got here. Then it became untenable.

 

[Covert Rain]

The Suns could include Allen in the trade. I'm just being sarcastic here, but that Ayton trade was terrible.

Suns even gave up Camara

At first the trade looked great. Then for some reason our replacement fell off a cliff. Overall (not prepositionally), it was still addition by subtraction. Not to mention the Suns would have had to made a longer and very expensive financial commitment to Ayton. Our entire salary structure would have been built around Book and Ayton. What a disaster that would be.

This reeks of desperation to try and get him back and it won't change anything.

 

[Mainstreet]

You should want the Suns to extend KD, that would only increase his trade value as long as he is still healthy.

Ayton has minimum trade value for a reason - I was a believer for way to long, but his time in Portland has made it clear, he is a bum.

Extend Durant and hope he doesn't get injured until he is potentially traded? No thanks. The Suns are in cap hell.

The only reason to think about Ayton is because of his minimal trade value.

 

[Hoop Head]

LOL

Can you be any more immature? Stupid question, OF COURSE you can.

I'm being genuine and caring, Chap. Is that the wrong lane?

 

[Mainstreet]

We are just having some fun discussion until Durant is traded.

Let's try to keep it light.

 

[Covert Rain]

The other thing that doesn't make sense is giving up any assets for Ayton when he is entering the final year of his contract. His team has signaled he is a top tier free agent and will be seeking such a contract. Suns can't afford to give up assets for a 1 year rental. There is no shot whatsoever the Suns would give up what Ayton's agents are seeking. Not a chance.

 

[95pro]

Ayton...KD

All I know is the Aytons last three years with the suns have been better than KD's last three years with the suns, and thats with them sharing one year on the same team.