BirdGangThing
Murd Watcher
correctamundo - that is how tanking worksIt only matters if they are our draft picks.
correctamundo - that is how tanking worksIt only matters if they are our draft picks.
Draft picks we trade for. His point is the objective should be to turn KD into picks not players. Also the sensible thing to do would be to trade Booker for picks as well.Whose picks? You aren't elaborating. Saying "draft picks" isn't a plan. There are multiple ways to build a team and you offer "draft picks" and think that is a selling point. We have essentially no worthwhile pick for the next 7 years and can't control where we pick at all. Yes, trading for picks would help but then what? Hope Booker sucks where we traded him so we get a good pick? That's ridiculous and asking to become a joke.
To expand on the Suns fandom some, the fan base is older because the younger generation had nothing to cheer for during the later Sarver years. Growing and maintaining a fan base isn't done by toiling in the lottery while Brooklyn, Houston, Washington, Utah, and Memphis control our own picks and will build better teams for us to complete with. We're so far behind at the "get picks to be better" stage that they will flourish from our ineptitude. It makes virtually no sense to hand them top lottery picks while we collect late 1st rounders who bail at the first opportunity because our team has become a bad joke.
No it doesn’t. That doesn’t matter, what we are able to pick with the picks is all that matters. Tanking doesn’t really work, you only need to look at the last lottery to see that.It only matters if they are our draft picks.
What do Indy and Minnesota have in common, they are made up of young ascending players.
New York didn’t really overachieve, Boston lost porzingas and later Tatum.
There is a big difference between being the hornets or Washington vs any other team. Those teams cannot get fa’s. But even so those teams have done a horrendous job of drafting or they would have turned things around by now, although their lottery luck has been terrible.
No it doesn’t. That doesn’t matter, what we are able to pick with the picks is all that matters. Tanking doesn’t really work, you only need to look at the last lottery to see that.
There is no path forward without draft picks. You show me one team that is successful that isn’t heavily built from the draft.
What are Neismith, mathrin, and nembhardt?Our lottery luck has been terrible and minus Booker's ability to attract players the Suns fall right next to those teams attracting talent.
Minnesota is a team with 2 young players, Ant and Jaden McDaniels as core pieces. Randle and Gobert aren't young and Mike Conley might be older than some board members. Indiana is young in regards to Haliburton but Siakam is around Book's age. I think you're misrepresenting what those teams are.
Injuries always happen. Every year there is someone who goes down that could have drastically changed the finals matchup. Sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. There's more to root for if you're in the playoffs vs the lottery where we don't even have the rights to our own pick.
And who said the picks we get, especially in a Booker deal have to be late in the draft?There are many notable exceptions, but the odds of drafting a star diminish the later a team drafts.
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And who said the picks we get, especially in a Booker deal have to be late in the draft?
What are Neismith, mathrin, and nembhardt?
Think you forgot about Alexander-walker and naz reid too.
We are a top 10 destination for FA.
Last I checked all the guys that made those bad picks no longer work for the suns or anywhere in the nba for that matter. Trying to say it didn’t work before so it won’t work now is stupid, because it clearly does work for many of the current best teams.
The trade was pretty logical. We went from not having a tradable first rounder until 2031 to being able to trade any of our first rounders from 2025 to 2029We've certainly made more damaging trades but that one is the most incomprehensible.
No it doesn’t. That doesn’t matter, what we are able to pick with the picks is all that matters. Tanking doesn’t really work, you only need to look at the last lottery to see that.
The Suns are not getting the trade offers they want for Kevin Durant. See Brian Windhorst.
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Oh I'm still around, just don't have much to offer that hasn't already been discussed many times.
Another reason I'm grateful JJ is gone. The price was set at the trade deadline this season, IMO. I believe we've received lower offers than that and it's led to the disappointment mentioned here. The Suns have less leverage than they did. I'm hopeful the Bane overpay artificially raises KD's value some. I'm glad a deal hasn't been approved as rumored since none of those are enticing enough to rush into.
The Suns are not getting the trade offers they want for Kevin Durant. See Brian Windhorst.
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I dont trust windy, he's not as connected as he makes it seem. That list is KD's list too, suns just need to do whats best for the suns.
All we are going to get is crumbs until it happens, unless an agent or another team leaks it.
exactly what i was saying yesterdayThe Suns are not getting the trade offers they want for Kevin Durant. See Brian Windhorst.
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I am aware our picks haven't been that great. However let me remind you some of the players on the board we could have - and many argued at the time we should have but did not pick.I'm talking about the draft picks the Suns currently own. I wasn't talking about trading Devin Booker.
Draft picks are not a guarantee of success, which you seem to go back and forth on.
Who was the last star the Suns drafted? Hint. It's a player you just mentioned.
It absolutely will. The problem is it is hard to play book and him at the same time.Hmm. Talk about the hope Bradley Beal's production might improve without Kevin Durant.
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Hmm. Talk about the hope Bradley Beal's production might improve without Kevin Durant.
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