Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[Proximo]

Robert Sarver made those trades playing GM. Of course the Suns have Mat Ishbia.

At this point you think ishiba is better than Sarver? I am not seeing it, in fact he might be worse due to holes he is willing to dig us into with his bad decisions.

 

[Mainstreet]

At this point you think ishiba is better than Sarver? I am not seeing it, in fact he might be worse due to holes he is willing to dig us into with his bad decisions.

No, but I see the irony of it. Two owners making horrible trades.

Sarver eventually learned. Will Mat Ishbia?

 

[Mainstreet]

No it does not. That is laughable.

That is an inferior roster to Portland. OKC,spurs, Houston, lakers, Denver, GS, Memphis are all clearly better teams.

Gobert would give Phoenix a defensive center they desperately need.

He might get the Suns through until the 2032 draft, when they own their draft pick.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Given our trajectory, that trade isn't terrible if you want the team to not be unwatchable over the next several years.

I honestly think that we improve with that trade, probably a 1st round exit kinda team, and the Wolves get far worse... but, if we can't get picks from the wolves (which they gave up for Gobert in the first place) it is hard to see a long term reward.

I honestly think you’re OD’ing on Bookool-Aid. That team doesn’t even win the 36 games this pathetic team did and no way in hell it makes the playoffs. It’s a one option offense, run by the same guy who can’t run a good offense and a good defensive big man.

It’s like a low budget or no budget attempt to remake this year’s Wolves team except Booker ain’t near the same player as Edwards, it has no Randle or other established role players besides Dante.

That would leave us worse in the present and do nothing to help the future. To be honest, I think that’s one of the worst teams in the league.

Booker without any proven second option (or really first option) player = disastrous seasons in the past… and even disastrous with one this season. I don’t believe there’s any possible “reBooking” around him to even be mediocre with any KD trade and it’s pure folly to even try.

Sadly, we’ll probably only learn that lesson halfway thru next year’s abomination of a season on tap. And even then, Ish will probably be too pig headed to realize trading Book at peak value is the only chance this team has at being relevant in any way for the next decade.

 

[Covert Rain]

No it does not. That is laughable.

That is an inferior roster to Portland. OKC,spurs, Houston, lakers, Denver, GS, Memphis are all clearly better teams.

At a minimum that is a play in team. They do absolutely nothing in the playoffs but the defense alone would let me scrape into it IMO. Sadly, as long as this team builds around Book and that salary? We will forever be a bubble team or worse barring a major acquisition that is better than Book.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Purgatory = unwatchable

Watching Book play out the last of his peak years like Steve Nash with Hakeem Warrick, Josh Childress and Hedo Turkaglu would be tough to swallow and wouldn’t be fun for anybody.

I think even believing that team = purgatory is out of whack. That team is pretty close to hell. Maybe not the 9th circle, but still hell. Nash could still unbelievably lift that team you mentioned to .500. Booked doesn’t have the game to lift a team like that in any way shape or form.

 

[Cheesebeef]

As I mentioned in another thread, if the Suns want to compete to be a playoff team, this trade gets them close.

It gives the Suns a starting center in Rudy Gobert and Donte DiVincenzo is a solid guard. Hopefully the Suns can find a trade to get younger, but this is not a bad trade, especially if Rob Dillingham develops.

That team isn’t close to being a playoff team. It’s got a one dimensional scorer who doesn’t have game to lift the rest of the team, a good defensive big man, a good defensive SF (Dunn) but otherwise is an AWFUL defensive team with almost no scoring outside Booker.

That’s a bad team.

 

[Cheesebeef]

At a minimum that is a play in team. They do absolutely nothing in the playoffs but the defense alone would let me scrape into it IMO. Sadly, as long as this team builds around Book and that salary? We will forever be a bubble team or worse barring a major acquisition that is better than Book.

The maximum that team is is a play-in team. Who on that team besides Dunn and Gobert are scrapping out there?

 

[Mainstreet]

A Finals Suns team was built around Devin Booker… by adding Chris Paul, Jae Crowder, Mikal Bridges and Deandre Ayton.

 

[taz02]

A Finals Suns team was built around Devin Booker… by adding Chris Paul, Jae Crowder, Mikal Bridges and Deandre Ayton

We just need an all-star PG, the #1 and #10 pick and an established front court player and we'll be right there.

 

[Mainstreet]

We just need an all-star PG, the #1 and #10 pick and an established front court player and we'll be right there.

The Suns had all that and then got rid of it in 2023.

 

[leclerc]

Stop it. Stop reminding us

 

[Hoop Head]

Stop it. Stop reminding us

It's fair when people claim a good team around Booker can't win. That is the evidence that proves otherwise. It sucks but it's where we are.

 

[angel_ofthe_south]

The following aspect of the list of possible trade destinations puzzles me. Like Charles Barkley when he demanded a trade (not that Durant demands a trade), Kevin Durant has enough superstar cachet that he controls where he goes. So now the media's saying the Wolves want Durant. Unless Durant wants to go to Minnesota, who cares? We know he likes Houston and Miami, and hasn't he indicated interest in the Spurs? But if the Suns make a deal with the Wolves, Durant can refuse to report. The Mavericks were also mentioned yesterday as being interested. Same problem unless Durant would accept playing there.

 

[Hoop Head]

The following aspect of the list of possible trade destinations puzzles me. Like Charles Barkley when he demanded a trade (not that Durant demands a trade), Kevin Durant has enough superstar cachet that he controls where he goes. So now the media's saying the Wolves want Durant. Unless Durant wants to go to Minnesota, who cares? We know he likes Houston and Miami, and hasn't he indicated interest in the Spurs? But if the Suns make a deal with the Wolves, Durant can refuse to report. The Mavericks were also mentioned yesterday as being interested. Same problem unless Durant would accept playing there.

The Suns need to operate in their best interest. If KD doesn't report then he sacrifices $55 million and a potential extension. He is at the tail end of his career and losing his bird rights by failing to report would be incredibly dumb. Even if he doesn't want to go where he's traded, like Toronto, then he needs to play the role of good soldier and seek out long term money either by asking for them to move him or playing out the year and facilitating a sign and trade elsewhere. No team will clear cap space to sign him to a big money but some team will offer bad contracts and picks to get him through a sign and trade.

The Suns are capable of controlling the situation but whether they do is another story.

 

[Hoop Head]

My assumption is that the Suns would prefer to trade Durant to the Heat to keep him away from any western conference rival.

We don't have a rival. We aren't even a playoff team. We almost traded him to Golden State last season and they're in our division.

 

[Ronin]

Suns May Trade Two Former Utah Jazz Players

The Phoenix Suns are searching the trade market for a move on two former Utah Jazz players.

www.si.com

 

[Mainstreet]

We don't have a rival. We aren't even a playoff team. We almost traded him to Golden State last season and they're in our division.

I had to laugh at this one.

So true yet hope reigns eternal.

 

[Proximo]

Gobert would give Phoenix a defensive center they desperately need.

He might get the Suns until the 2032 draft, where they own their draft pick.

I hate Gobert. He is a stiff, can’t guard the perimeter which makes him a massive liability on D, and he sucks on offense.

He is in my top 10 most disliked players.

 

[Phrazbit]

What are you trying to accomplish with that?

We have to make a deal with potential upside, because we have no young players or picks of our own.

That deal is saying you want to win no more than 40 games for the next 5 years. I would far rather win 20 for the next 2 and have hope with some young guys after that.

If we trade away Booker and Durant and don't get any of our own picks back we're not going to be winning even 20 games and it's going to last a lot longer than 2 years.

I don't see any scenario, barring hitting absolute gold with a late pick, where we play meaningful basketball over the next 8-10 years. So, if we don't get our picks back, I'd rather aspire for mediocrity.

 

[Proximo]

So - i hesitate to even say this because I know how much so many of you hate him - flex just said our target in a 3 way deal is jaren Jackson.

That seems impossible to me, because I just think that’s too good to be true, but if it is I would be very happy if they can pull that off.

 

[Proximo]

If we trade away Booker and Durant and don't get any of our own picks back we're not going to be winning even 20 games and it's going to last a lot longer than 2 years.

I don't see any scenario, barring hitting absolute gold with a late pick, where we play meaningful basketball over the next 8-10 years. So, if we don't get our picks back, I'd rather aspire for mediocrity.

Well we aren’t trading Booker, that is quite clear.

But I don’t agree with you, give me young players with some hope to improve over a 40 win team full of so so vets any day.

 

[Mainstreet]

I hate Gobert. He is a stiff, can’t guard the perimeter which makes him a massive liability on D, and he sucks on offense.

He is in my top 10 most disliked players.

Who else is in your top ten?

 

[Hoop Head]

So - i hesitate to even say this because I know how much so many of you hate him - flex just said our target in a 3 way deal is jaren Jackson.

That seems impossible to me, because I just think that’s too good to be true, but if it is I would be very happy if they can pull that off.

I will venmo or cashapp Flex if that legitimately happen. I got $20 towards a night out for him.

 

[Mainstreet]

So - i hesitate to even say this because I know how much so many of you hate him - flex just said our target in a 3 way deal is jaren Jackson.

That seems impossible to me, because I just think that’s too good to be true, but if it is I would be very happy if they can pull that off.

And what happened to Johnnie Bryant?

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