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This is not the way to look at it.

Think how good we would be with high end talent and this coaching staff, but since we have no way to acquire high end talent because we botched everything so badly the last 3 years, this is going to have to suffice.

Since the Suns don't have the assets to acquire elite talent beyond what they already have, they have to dig a little deeper than other teams.

Those gold nuggets are not going to be lying on top of the ground.

The Heat have been doing it for years.
 
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Dillon Brooks doing his thing last night.

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In reference to the last video above, I keep hoping opponents think of Collin Gillespie as only a shooter. That is only part of his game.

He so much more than that. Collin is a play-maker and an energizer. And always does the small things on defense that disrupts opponents. In regard to the latter, he is a lot like Dillon Brooks.
 
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Duane Rankin gives his takeaways from the game.

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Duane Rankin gives his takeaways from the game.

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Playing with sciatica is amazing by LeBron. My experience is it never really goes away. You have good days, and then the pain returns. I think it's amazing that he is playing through this.
 

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Since the Suns don't have the assets to acquire elite talent beyond what they already have, they have to dig a little deeper than other teams.

Those gold nuggets are not going to be lying on top of the ground.

The Heat have been doing it for years.
One trade could completely change the "assets on the shelf" situation.

We all know what that is.
 

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I think we can safely say that JJ Redick got Ott coached last night.
"Maybe there's a brain fog after playing three games in four nights."

Oh. There is a fog all right. But it's not the type of brain fog you are thinking of. Its coming from DA's locker, and his car, and his living room, and his bedroom, and wafting over the fence to his neighbor's house . . .
 

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In reference to the last video above, I keep hoping opponents think of Collin Gillespie as only a shooter. That is only part of his game.

He so much more than that. Collin is a play-maker and an energizer. And always does the small things on defense that disrupts opponents. In regard to the latter, he is a lot like Dillon Brooks.
And he always keeps his dribble!
 

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"Maybe there's a brain fog after playing three games in four nights."

Oh. There is a fog all right. But it's not the type of brain fog you are thinking of. Its coming from DA's locker, and his car, and his living room, and his bedroom, and wafting over the fence to his neighbor's house . . .
Suns: three games in four nights:
At OKC
Denver
At LA

Lakers: three games in four nights, all at home:
Mavericks
Pelicans
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Since the Suns don't have the assets to acquire elite talent beyond what they already have, they have to dig a little deeper than other teams.

Those gold nuggets are not going to be lying on top of the ground.

The Heat have been doing it for years.
Yeah, the problem we have - and I am afraid it is a big problem - we don't have cap space, so these guys we find, we may not be able to keep since typically it only makes sense to sign them to 1 year deals.
 

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This is not the way to look at it.

Think how good we would be with high end talent and this coaching staff, but since we have no way to acquire high end talent because we botched everything so badly the last 3 years, this is going to have to suffice.
Disagree. I think that having non-stars and "nobodies" like Royce O'Neal, Grayson Allen or Collin Gillespie is part of the reason coach has successfully extracted effort from them. Having players who haven't achieved much is baked into the team's current success. It probably can't be done for spoiled and lazy players like Kevin Durant or Bradley Beal, who have the money, power, fame and ego to do what they like and ignore a coach if he tells them to change. Beal throwing a fit when asked to imitate Jrue Holiday is a good example. I do not want to acquire higher-end talent than the current players, and risk disturbing the chemistry that produces this great effort.

Mat Ishbia has a financial incentive to keep this group, anyway. No one is expected to demand some max contract. The only player we're worried about keeping has been Gillespie, and the Suns can keep him if they want to.
 
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Yeah, the problem we have - and I am afraid it is a big problem - we don't have cap space, so these guys we find, we may not be able to keep since typically it only makes sense to sign them to 1 year deals.

This is why it's good to find young talent and sign them into the future on multi-year minimum type salaries with team options.

There is not much downside on this.

It looks like the Suns missed the boat on Gillespie but I hope they can find a way to keep him.
 

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Yeah, the problem we have - and I am afraid it is a big problem - we don't have cap space, so these guys we find, we may not be able to keep since typically it only makes sense to sign them to 1 year deals.

They will go over the tax for Gillespie. Royce playing just good enough to be the odd man out
 

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This is why it's good to find young talent and sign them into the future on multi-year minimum type salaries with team options.

There is not much downside on this.

It looks like the Suns missed the boat on Gillespie but I hope they can find a way to keep him.

Its actually not as bad as I thought.

Richards is not going to be picked up at 10 million in 2026

That gives them 39 milion into the first apron for their own guys.

Beal is such an anchor it's wild.
 
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They will go over the tax for Gillespie. Royce playing just good enough to be the odd man out

I understand using Early Bird rights the Suns can sign Collin Gillespie to a 4 year contract starting around $13,294,268 per season plus increases. Hopefully this is enough to keep him when he becomes a free agent.

The problem is O'Neale and Allen were signed to three year contracts under James Jones which can keep them under contract until
2027-28. Although I like both players, this poses a problem for the Suns if they want to add to the team.

Richards $5 contract expires this season so it will come off the books so this will help going forward.

Hopefully the Suns know a lot more about the salary cap than I do.

 

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Its actually not as bad as I thought.

Richards is not going to be picked up at 10 million in 2026

That gives them 39 milion into the first apron for their own guys.

Beal is such an anchor it's wild.
Is that after the $27-$28 mil for Beal?
 

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Sportrac makes it look like we are very close:

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