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Yeah, but he had a first-round baseball contract in place. It was no sure thing he was gonna be drafted #1 overall into the NFL.
But he didn’t have to forfeit the baseball contract just to enter the nfl draft, did he? And once he did and was drafted #1 that became a no-brainer.
 

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When MLB and the A's met with Murray, MLB authorized the A's to give Murray a $14 million signing bonus which was larger than his draft position authorized, and the A's were guaranteeing a spot on their active roster his first season.
I never saw the guarantee roster spot. Here’s a pretty good discussion of it:


Not a slam dunk mlb career by any means. Just a carrot that ended up being weaker than what he received from going #1 in the nfl.
 

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But he didn’t have to forfeit the baseball contract just to enter the nfl draft, did he? And once he did and was drafted #1 that became a no-brainer.
According to this, he only got the signing bonus paid.

 

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You know this how?
You doubt this why?

I mean, we've been given countless examples, from excuses as to why he's not a film junkie to questions about his dedication because he only trains with daddy. It provokes boundless speculation. Not a single person would speculate about Tom Brady's work ethic. It speaks for itself.

That's not to say his approach can't work. Maybe it will. I hope so! I'm just stating my preference.
 
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You doubt this why?

I mean, we've been given countless examples, from excuses as to why he's not a film junkie to questions about his dedication because he only trains with daddy. It provokes boundless speculation. Not a single person would speculate about Tom Brady's work ethic. It speaks for itself.

That's not to say his approach can't work. Maybe it will. I hope so! I'm just stating my preference.

I couldn't say for certain either way.
 

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"Justin Herbert says..." translates to "Justin Hebert has a better stable of media savvy handlers..." and nothing more. You guys will find just about anything to lament...
I think it is reasonable to lament that Herbert has outperformed Murray in one less year and wasn't taken number one.

I don't believe it is even debatable that Mahomes, Herbert, and Allen are all better QBs than Kyler Murray at this point in time. While it is ok, it is also a bit disappointing.

I do agree that there is little evidence to prove that Kyler doesn't take his career seriously. I think he does. That said, I do believe his biggest issues are self awareness and humility. I have made the Russell Westbrook comparison before and it popped into my head when he passed on speaking with the media this past week which Somers reported.
 

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You will never convince me you actually believe he's an eat, sleep, drink, eat football type of player like Brady. Which doesn't mean he isn't serious about football.
Brady wasn't like that early in his career, by most reports.

Even then, while you hope your quarterback holds himself to the same standard as one of the most psychotically competitive players in NFL history, it's a really high bar to hold someone else to.
 

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Brady wasn't like that early in his career, by most reports.

Even then, while you hope your quarterback holds himself to the same standard as one of the most psychotically competitive players in NFL history, it's a really high bar to hold someone else to.
The tough part is that based upon Kyler's size, the only successful comps are Brees and Russ who are both obsessively competitive in the Brady/Manning mold.

No 5'10 Roethlisbergers out there in NFL history.
 
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