Let’s Talk About Lamb

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  1. CardsSunsDbacks

    CardsSunsDbacks Not So Skeptical Contributor

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    Dude can put on a few pounds, but he is ultimately slightly taller and slightly faster than Hopkins. Both excel at catching contested passes, both have exceptional hands and both are very good route runners. He may not end up as good as DHop (too early to say for sure), but it won't be because of his physical tools if he isn't.
     
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    I think he put on a few pounds for the combine and it affected his times. I thought he looked around 190 last year and was surprised he measured at 198. That’s still 15+ lbs lighter than Hopkins weighed at the combine. And we can’t be sure about skill sets projecting to the next level when the production has come against really bad competition. I’ve always thought Lamb is a safe pick but not a high ceiling.
     
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    Cee Dee Lamb was significantly stronger in 2019 than he was in 2018. Harry already mentioned that but it's worth repeating. That increases the likelihood that he is motivated and wants it.

    Harry also noted his YAC proclivity. Also worth repeating.

    He's also an excellent Punt Returner and Kick Off Returner.
     
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    cardpa Finding the Field

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    I think Samuel, Jones or Williams would be the best fits who would not have an excessive cost and would be field stretchers. Guys like Golladay, Schuster, Godwin, and Hilton would not be affordable unless Fitz hangs them up then you have $11 million to play with and let's face it, at that point any of those 4 would be better than Fitz who is no more than a possession receiver now. Could you imagine having Hopkins and Golladay on the field at the same time.
     
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    Yea galloday is dope my bro had him on our lg money fantasy last yr puts up good numbers

    Will be interesting to see what happens after fitz goes
     
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    The thing I hate most about highlight reels is when they show a wr 10 yards behind the closest guy.

    The thing I liked about Lamb is his highlight reel showed numerous catches with great coverage both downfield but especially outside the numbers.

    As things stand right now, Nuk is going to attract the #1 corner and double coverage. Somebody on this team is going to have to step up and take advantage of this. Can it be Kirk? Fitz will but it won’t be downfield as much.

    Is that receiver currently on this team ? That’s the real question. If not we need to get one. Might not be Lamb in the first round but how about a big target like Claypool? Mims will be gone.
     
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    TheCardFan Things have changed.

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    People forget Murray spreads the ball around, he doesnt just lock onto a WR, having your 3rd or 4th CB on Lamb, Kirk, Fitz Murray will eat them alive also, forcing the D Into Nickles and Dimes, Lbs couldnt cover Lamb and Kirk, which also takes a way up front pressure, by reducing the number of Dline and Lbers, up front forcing more DBs into the field. Add that with Murrays wheels and pocket presence and escape skills, having such dangerous wide outs will force defenses from bringing the house or paying dearly for it when they do.
     
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    One thing we will have to remember from last year. This offense will be even better between the 20 yard lines.

    The big improvement will be Hopkins, Fitz and Arnold in the the red zone.

    I think KK learned that last year as the season progressed. When we are inside the 10 yard line 4 wr sets just floods the area with less room to throw the ball.
     
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    Conversely, can our 3rd and 4th CBs cover any WR? Do we have a LB who could successfully cover TEs? What about a D-Lineman who could plug the hole and be a run stopper?

    No one can say "yes" to any of those questions with any degree of confidence.

    We now have an elite WR, and the only real argument about WR today is who's the 4th best, and we drafted three of them last season. If you trust Kliff's ability to coach and Murray's ability to throw the football, you should trust that the team doesn't need load the WR room while depriving the obvious weaknesses on the team.
     
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    Full disclosure: I think Dan Arnold is going to have a bigger impact on this offense than people think. I'm his biggest fan.

    TJ: Dan Arnold::K9:Jim Dray
     
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    Provided Peterson plays well enough into his thirties and the team has not intention of trading him, Okudah still makes a lot of sense. Provided Larry Legend has a great year for his age and enjoys his current situation inching towards some of Rice's hallmark records and decides to come back, a Lamb or Jeudy still makes sense... the draft is about putting pieces in place which then reach maturation when your other players are no longer there
     
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    Too logical! I always looked at the draft for the year after. Whatever you get out of the 2020 draft in 2020 is a bonus. What is this pick going to add to your team in 2 years?

    When you take this approach nobody should really be upset no matter who we select. There is not one player in this draft that is going to put a team in the Super Bowl. That is reserved for superstar free agents on teams that are 1 or 2 players away.
     
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    With your logic, you shouldn't want a WR then, because you should be focused on what our 3 WRs drafted last year are going to contribute as 2nd year players.
     
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    Campbell was signed for TE coverage, Phillip's to help stuff the run. The Cards run the spread they are not facing 4 Wrs consistently, your argument makes no sense, they dont need 3 or 4 cbs, but the Cards opponents will. Cards run half their plays with 4 Wrs, Andy Isabella wasnt physical enough, Keesean stayed inactive as the season ended and Butler would have been cut in camp if not placed on IR. It shows Keim cant draft, take the homerun easy choice Lamb.

    • They ran 376 plays with three receivers on the field. They ran 326 with four receivers.
    • Their most common personnel was “11” personnel, with one back, one tight end and three receivers. They ran 346 plays that way.
    • They ran “10” personnel 317 times, their next most common personnel grouping on offense. The other nine plays with four wideouts were with no running back and a tight end with the four receivers.
    I am for Simmoms over Lamb to help with TE, but the Cards dont run a traditional offense. They have 4 WRs on the field KK said he wanted to run alot more 5 WRs but didn't have the personnel. Byrd is gone, Larry is retiring and the Rookie Wideouts were misses. A base of Murray, Drake Hopkins, Fitz Lamb and Kirk, would be hard for defenses to line up against, they would force LBs off the field or in bad match ups. In a normal NFL offense 4 Wrs would be dumb, 4 WRs for the Cards would be their base formation, so Lamb is definently in play
     
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