Kyler Murray in 5 Years

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by TJ, May 22, 2019.

Where will Kyler Rank in 5 Years?

  1. Top-5 All-Pro Caliber QB

    29.5%
  2. Top-10 With one or two Pro Bowls

    42.9%
  3. Top-20 Average Starting QB

    7.6%
  4. Journeyman Backup

    6.7%
  5. Mega Bust - Out of the League

    13.3%
  1. GoldGloveschmidt

    GoldGloveschmidt Registered

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    I think he'll be a top 5 fantasy QB over the next 5 years.

    How many accolades (all-pro, pro bowl) he gets will depend on how many games the Cardinals win, which I have no idea about.
     
  2. PACardsFan

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    He'll be a pure stud & be ONE OF THE MOST exciting player in the NFL for years to come. It's truly a shame that we have such negative Nancy's on this board. He will serve up crow for so many of you that doubt him.
     
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    Hopefully, he has a Kirk Cousins/Matt Stafford career cause I know you’ll be proud of that.

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  4. Ouchie-Z-Clown

    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    True. Also shows even the best non-5’10 prospects are a gamble.
     
  5. Solar7

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    I'm not comparing the players as actual people, I'm comparing what I think will ultimately be their career comp. Guys who were top picks and will find their teams struggling to decide what's next. Re-sign them, or move another direction?

    Jameis and Mariota aren't bad players, but they aren't transcendent game-changers either. For whatever reason you want to pin on them.

    Kirk Cousins was a late draft pick who panned out, he wasn't #1 overall. He's a decent starting QB, and was the best option available to us at the time last year, when we had no idea Rosen was going to freefall. I stand by him being pretty good. I would have been wrong about that contract. Such is life.

    I'll stand by Stafford being a good QB mired in an inept franchise that refuses to build the right team for him.
     
  6. cheesebeef

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    dude's either going to be a total stud or complete dud. I'll choose to be optimistic for no other reason than why the hell not at this point.

    STUD! (but really have no clue).
     
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    You're going to be served up a HUGE helping of crow when he comes out and struggles. And he's a rookie QB. It's gonna happen man, get ready.

    I'm with you, but there were a lot more teams who would have taken both of them than there were those who were going to take Kyler.

    Let me restate for the record - I don't think Kyler's going to be dogcrap at QB, I don't think Rosen was going to be a top-ten QB. I think both are going to end up being middling QBs. An Andy Dalton and Marcus Mariota.
     
  8. NJCardFan

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    I agree. I wasn't on the Murray train but he's here now and we have to hope he succeeds. Anyone that wants him to fail has issues.
     
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    There's reasons for that. Call it Cardinal Fan PTSD. We've been led down the primrose path so often only to see our seasons crash and burn that some of us come to expect it. Especially when it comes to QB's. We took Kelly Stouffer early in the 1st round only to see him hold out and sign with someone else(and fail). We take Leinart early in the first round only to see him fail. Now we take a QB #1 and history is not on our side. Trends do break after a while. Hopefully this is one of those times.
     
  10. kerouac9

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    Both Mariota and Winston were considered huge gambles when they came out. Mariota was playing in a gimmick offense in a league that doesn't play defense; Winston loved throwing the ball to the other team.

    Andrew Luck was the last consensus top prospect at QB in the draft. Eli Manning was probably the last one before that.
     
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    Ask me in 5 years
     
  12. cheesebeef

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    man... you talk about others being ready to eat crow, but practice at least A LITTLE what you preach. Cousins is a mediocre at best stat padder who's never led his teams to even ONE playoff win. Standing by him "pretty good" is ridiculous contract or not considering he's proven one of the most overrated mediocre QB ever. Meanwhile, you seem to relish our own QBs downfall which is really sad... pretty much because you're loathe to admit you're wrong at this point, much like you were/are about Cousins. It comes through in almost every single post about the subject.
     
  13. cheesebeef

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    there's the relish, especially considering PA never said anything about him being immediately amazing. But you found a way to preemptively serve crow anyway.

    get over it, dude.
     
  14. kerouac9

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    I'd be more surprised if he comes out and struggles.

    Dak Prescott - 68% completions, 5 TDs (2 rushing), 0 INTs, 3-1 in first 4 games
    Deshaun Watson - 63% completions, 13 TDs (2 rushing), 3 INTs, 2-2 in first 4 games

    Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen struggled a little bit more, but it shouldn't be surprising to see these dual-threat guys come out and play well right away. They're able to wait around for perfect throws because they're moving in the pocket or taking off.

    Pocket passers tend to start slower because they have to read the defense and make the throw in rhythm, which can take some time to develop at the speed of the pro game.
     
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    Being a Cardinal fan, I went with one, because as stated by many, it's either boom or bust with him :)
     

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