Kyler Murray in 5 Years

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by TJ, May 22, 2019.

Where will Kyler Rank in 5 Years?

  1. Top-5 All-Pro Caliber QB

    29.5%
  2. Top-10 With one or two Pro Bowls

    42.9%
  3. Top-20 Average Starting QB

    7.6%
  4. Journeyman Backup

    6.7%
  5. Mega Bust - Out of the League

    13.3%
  1. devilalum

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    One of the reasons teams don’t like to choose QBs in the first round let alone #1 is the high rate of failure.


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    No clue. Haven't even seen him play a down yet.
     
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    Joe Flacco is an average QB and he has a SB ring. Same as Nick Foles. I also believe Russell Wilson to be a slightly above average QB and his numbers support that and he has a ring and went to 2 SB's. Hell, aside from Brady, players like Aaron Rogers, Brett Favre, Payton Manning, Drew Brees, all who are considered elite QB's all have 1 ring to speak of each. Yes Manning won another in Denver but if you think they won because of him you're nuts. He only won 1 while in his prime. Even the one he won was only because his opposing QB was Rex Grossman. In short, in order to win a title it takes the whole machine, not just one part.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    We may have f’ed up using the #1 pick on. him if he’s only average, but if he’s an average starting nfl qb we are certainly not screwed. In fact, we are still in a good spot (just not as good as we all hoped). I mean, how many years would we have given our left arms for an average nfl qb? The graham, Dave brown, gelbaugh, tupa, Anderson, Skelton, max hall, Blake, gabbert, Stanton, Lindley, Leinart, hogeboom, Schroeder, McMahon, Krieg, case, mckown, king, Navarre, kolb, hoyer, Bradford experiences should have us salivating over an average qb whenever we can get one.
     
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    Ouchie-Z-Clown I'm better than Mulli!

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    Actually the hype train has absolutely nothing to do with whether drafting him ends up being a positive or negative to the success of the team.
     
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    Uh, sure? Why would I disagree with that? But if we were looking to build a team around an average QB, why not just keep Rosen?

    The point of drafting Murray was for a transcendent QB whose talent would mask the inadequacies of the rest of the team, and raise us to another level.

    I guess everything overall will be a success if Kyler gets benched for Brett Hundley for the playoff run and then wins the Super Bowl with Jordan Hicks as the MVP, but that's not the expectation.
     
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    Hope he isn't playing baseball lol
     
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    If we don't make the playoffs or are one and done once in five years, are we really going to go "well at least he isn't Dave Krieg?"

    The expectations here have to be higher because of the investment, and what we gave away.
     
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    My desires are always playoffs. But I’m realistic to recognize that with football that’s dependent upon more than one player.
     
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    I'm with ya, but I want to win it all, and the narrative is that Kyler is supposed to turn us into an elite team. As it stands right now, a team like Tampa Bay can't be too happy with their investment in Jameis Winston, y'know? Maybe Arians changes that, but that pick has functionally been a bust for them.
     
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    To tough to say. Kingsbury’s offense might be crap in the NFL.
     
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    Mariota throws like a girl. Bad comparison. BTW, he's also much, much, much faster that MM.
     
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    Jameis Winston is a douchebag. Yet another poor comparison. What other comparisons can we make? How about comparisons to Brees & Mahomes? Heart of a lion. No quit in Murray. Talent & work ethic off the charts.
     
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