Kyler Murray entering Draft

[HGC]

I still think it's not that crazy to draft Murray and have them both develop together with the Cardinals, side by side. See which one turns out the best. If they both turn out really good, then you have a franchise QB and excellent trade bait for the rest of the league.

They’ve certainly be unconventional this offseason but I can’t see that. If they draft Murray it’s because they think he’s the guy

 

[GatorAZ]

It may not be the deciding factor, but of course a $8m CAP hit is a consideration given that we are already on the hook for $10.6m.

$8m covers your draft class.

So a 4m difference in cap hits between trading or keeping him? His dead cash would be off the books the following year along with Bradford’s. Nothing significant there.

 

[HGC]

Draft picks from whom?

NY seems keen on Haskins, JAGS for Foles and I don't think there's a chance in Hell that they'll consider anything outside the top 10 in this draft as part of a package.

You’re position is they wouldn’t move back to Miami or Washington’s pick and that’s fine but it’s not a certainty. And that Haskins will be there for the Giants. How can you know Oakland doesn’t covet him. How about the possibility of a team wanting to move up for Bosa?
Wentz was being mocked from 7-10 consistently in 2016 at this time and he went #2 overall. The draft process has just started and nobody knows what the Cardinals intentions are.

 

[GuernseyCard]

So a 4m difference in cap hits between trading or keeping him? His dead cash would be off the books the following year along with Bradford’s. Nothing significant there.

It's sure as heck significant in 2019.

 

[GuernseyCard]

You’re position is they wouldn’t move back to Miami or Washington’s pick and that’s fine but it’s not a certainty. And that Haskins will be there for the Giants. How can you know Oakland doesn’t covet him. How about the possibility of a team wanting to move up for Bosa?
Wentz was being mocked from 7-10 consistently in 2016 at this time and he went #2 overall. The draft process has just started and nobody knows what the Cardinals intentions are.

Our ideal trade partner is Oakland and given that they said they're committed to Carr it would likely be for Bosa. It would give us an extra #1 and other pieces in the top 120. Other than this, I stay put and take Bosa.

 

[Cardinal]

It's sure as heck significant in 2019.

No it’s not for a team like the Cardinals. 8 million isn’t a lot for a team trying to get to 8-8. That’s what 2019 is for us. 8-8 in Kingsbury’s 1st season would be a pretty big success.

 

[DRM08]

Our ideal trade partner is Oakland and given that they said they're committed to Carr it would likely be for Bosa. It would give us an extra #1 and other pieces in the top 120. Other than this, I stay put and take Bosa.

I don't see Gruden giving up enough to move to that spot. He might as well keep all those picks and draft them.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I still think it's not that crazy to draft Murray and have them both develop together with the Cardinals, side by side. See which one turns out the best. If they both turn out really good, then you have a franchise QB and excellent trade bait for the rest of the league.

Call me crazy, but I kind of like this approach as well. Let two guys, you know, compete for the starting job. Would it not bring out the best of both players?

On the flip side, the drama-factor would be off the charts. What a spectacle every pre-season game, every scrimmage, every practice would be. Every play by both guys would be put under a microscope, and everybody would be talking about us all the time. Non-stop. That's a lot of additional pressure to put on KK's narrow shoulders.

Its probably not the practical approach, but damn if it wouldn't be interesting.

 

[Folster]

Not sure if this was posted. It was a while ago, but damn, Murray looks so small.

Check out @AdamSchefter’s Tweet:

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[swagron]

Call me crazy, but I kind of like this approach as well. Let two guys, you know, compete for the starting job. Would it not bring out the best of both players?

On the flip side, the drama-factor would be off the charts. What a spectacle every pre-season game, every scrimmage, every practice would be. Every play by both guys would be put under a microscope, and everybody would be talking about us all the time. Non-stop. That's a lot of additional pressure to put on KK's narrow shoulders.

Its probably not the practical approach, but damn if it wouldn't be interesting.

But mugsy doesn’t compete. We see that today.

 

[GuernseyCard]

No it’s not for a team like the Cardinals. 8 million isn’t a lot for a team trying to get to 8-8. That’s what 2019 is for us. 8-8 in Kingsbury’s 1st season would be a pretty big success.

$8m is part of the investment leading to 8-8.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Not sure if this was posted. It was a while ago, but damn, Murray looks so small.

Check out @AdamSchefter’s Tweet:

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Rosen is bending to stay in the shot.

 

[slanidrac16]

Call me crazy, but I kind of like this approach as well. Let two guys, you know, compete for the starting job. Would it not bring out the best of both players?

On the flip side, the drama-factor would be off the charts. What a spectacle every pre-season game, every scrimmage, every practice would be. Every play by both guys would be put under a microscope, and everybody would be talking about us all the time. Non-stop. That's a lot of additional pressure to put on KK's narrow shoulders.

Its probably not the practical approach, but damn if it wouldn't be interesting.

And what happens if Rosen just smokes the hell out of Murray? What do we do with him?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Thank you God. I really, really appreciate it.

Really? I really don't understand this level of Twi-hard-like adoration a 20 year old kid you don't even know... who never even led their team to a title.

 

[TJ]

And what happens if Rosen just smokes the hell out of Murray? What do we do with him?

Then Keim should be fired for wasting the #1 pick on a backup QB

 

[Shane]

I don't see Gruden giving up enough to move to that spot. He might as well keep all those picks and draft them.

It’s not up to Gruden

 

[DRM08]

And what happens if Rosen just smokes the hell out of Murray? What do we do with him?

You could turn him into a pretty good slot receiver. Elite speed and quickness.

 

[Shane]

You could turn him into a pretty good slot receiver. Elite speed and quickness.

How do you know he has elite speed?

 

[Cheesebeef]

You could turn him into a pretty good slot receiver. Elite speed and quickness.

that would be an incredibly pathetic return for the number one pick in the draft.

 

[HGC]

Not sure if this was posted. It was a while ago, but damn, Murray looks so small.

Check out @AdamSchefter’s Tweet:

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Looks like Bushwick Bill in that picture. Those shorts or kids pants aren’t doing him any favors.

 

[cardsfanmd]

The same was said about Lamar Jackson and I agree.

To try and put Lamar Jackson in the same sentence as Murray is laughable at best. Zero comparison.

 

[slanidrac16]

To try and put Lamar Jackson in the same sentence as Murray is laughable at best. Zero comparison.

Not comparing anything but comments made last year about the intrigue with Jackson.

 

[Shane]

To try and put Lamar Jackson in the same sentence as Murray is laughable at best. Zero comparison.

$25.00 wager I say. To be paid 7 seasons from now... That’s more then 1/2 way into both careers give or take. We have to base it off a common rating system so how about the NFL QB rating for both players not the stupid ESPN MODEL OF QBR....

If one of them is out of the league or a back up only player 2-3 years from now we can call the bet and YOU CAN ADMIT DEFEAT HAHA

 

[iLLmatiC]

NBC Sports: Report: Raiders are shopping Derek Carr.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/02/report-raiders-are-shopping-derek-carr/

 

[Shane]

NBC Sports: Report: Raiders are shopping Derek Carr.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/02/report-raiders-are-shopping-derek-carr/

Sounds like drummed up BS to me but ya never know