Forgetting need and taking BPA - Cardinal Mock Draft

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All picks were chosen, as completely as possible, on who was BPA based on highest ranking and grade (thus each graded an A+), with one simple trade where Cards moved back 2 spots in round 1 in order to pick up a R2 pick:

Round 1 Pick 10 (CLE): Isaiah Simmons, OLB/ILB, Clemson (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9 (CLE): Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 8: Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A+)
Round 4 Pick 8: Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, S. Illinois (A+)
Round 4 Pick 25: Alex Taylor, OT, SC State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 23: Darrynton Evans, RB, App. St. (A+)
Round 7 Pick 8: Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island (A+)

Choosing where picks were influenced by NEED would have produced a much different draft:

Round 1 Pick 10 (CLE): Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 9 (CLE): A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson (A+)
Round 3 Pick 8: Jordan Elliott, DT, Missouri (A)
Round 4 Pick 8: Harrison Bryant, TE, FAU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 25: Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF (A+)
Round 6 Pick 23: Reggie Robinson II, CB, Tulsa (A+)
Round 7 Pick 8: Cohl Cabral, C/OG, Arizona St. (B+)

How do you see each? Is one stronger than the other? Which do you like better? Which WAY produced the better results? If this reflected our actual draft, what grade would you give each (A-D)?
 

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Not getting a 2nd round pick for moving back 2 spots. Even going back 4 spots it's not a balanced trade to get a 3rd. Other than that I don't see Simmons falling that far.

Love some of your middle round picks, like Chinn and Harrison Bryant.

I like the top one best because taking Simmons allows a chance to shop PP or Alford for another 2nd. You could even try doing that if you selected Henderson at CB.
 
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Nobody giving you a 2nd to move up 2 spots that’s just unrealistic

no way Ruiz last till round 3 he’s going late first most likely
 

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Nobody giving you a 2nd to move up 2 spots that’s just unrealistic

no way Ruiz last till round 3 he’s going late first most likely

The Cowboys are a team now which would love to get Ruiz and I expect he's on their radar with their early round picks
 
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I finally broke a score of 40,000 (or 4,000?) in a draft with the Cardinals on that site


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Congrats, it is harder to do than it appears. I have done it only once or twice. Funny thing is I wasn't the top scorer in that draft. I find it strange how some drafters have had such high scores like 48k +.
 

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All picks were chosen, as completely as possible, on who was BPA based on highest ranking and grade (thus each graded an A+), with one simple trade where Cards moved back 2 spots in round 1 in order to pick up a R2 pick:

Round 1 Pick 10 (CLE): Isaiah Simmons, OLB/ILB, Clemson (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9 (CLE): Trevon Diggs, CB, Alabama (A+)
Round 3 Pick 8: Cesar Ruiz, C/OG, Michigan (A+)
Round 4 Pick 8: Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, S. Illinois (A+)
Round 4 Pick 25: Alex Taylor, OT, SC State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 23: Darrynton Evans, RB, App. St. (A+)
Round 7 Pick 8: Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island (A+)

Choosing where picks were influenced by NEED would have produced a much different draft:

Round 1 Pick 10 (CLE): Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 2 Pick 9 (CLE): A.J. Terrell, CB, Clemson (A+)
Round 3 Pick 8: Jordan Elliott, DT, Missouri (A)
Round 4 Pick 8: Harrison Bryant, TE, FAU (A+)
Round 4 Pick 25: Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF (A+)
Round 6 Pick 23: Reggie Robinson II, CB, Tulsa (A+)
Round 7 Pick 8: Cohl Cabral, C/OG, Arizona St. (B+)

How do you see each? Is one stronger than the other? Which do you like better? Which WAY produced the better results? If this reflected our actual draft, what grade would you give each (A-D)?

You're not going to get a 2nd round pick in a two-slot to drop; at best a third and the chance that Simmons is there at #10 - Slim and None!
 
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You're not going to get a 2nd round pick in a two-slot to drop; at best a third and the chance that Simmons is there at #10 - Slim and None!

I beg to differ. Very possible there is a run on both QBs and OTs in top 10 picks, including several trades up for each. Anyone one or even two of those top 4 studs could slip down to 8-12. I would definitely take an even money bet that one does.
 

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I beg to differ. Very possible there is a run on both QBs and OTs in top 10 picks, including several trades up for each. Anyone one or even two of those top 4 studs could slip down to 8-12. I would definitely take an even money bet that one does.

So Simmons is on the board at #8 and we trade down?
 
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Has anyone else noticed how before the draft players are overly criticized for their deficiencies, and immediately after the draft they are raved about how much they can do, will help, and fill the need of the team who is drafting them. That goes all the way through the whole draft.

Or is it just me?
 

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You're not going to get a 2nd round pick in a two-slot to drop; at best a third and the chance that Simmons is there at #10 - Slim and None!
You're exactly right imo. No way a team will give us a 2nd rd pick for trading down just two spots. 4 spots down............maybe? If Simmons is there at #8 or Derrick Brown, it would have to be one hell of an offer to not select either if I was SK. Trading down to #10 or lower, no way either player is there. Imo, 3 QB's could be taken in the first 7 picks, 2 OT's, 1 CB & 1 edge rusher. That's the best case scenario for us to snag either Simmons or Brown, if only 1 OT is taken then you can probably substitute either Simmons or Brown in the other OT spot. Maybe that leaves us the OT we covet & maybe not? Maybe SK has totally different plans? There's several ways this could play out but unless we can see the Cardinals board, we're all just guessing lol.
 
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I finally broke a score of 40,000 (or 4,000?) in a draft with the Cardinals on that site


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I just scored my highest ever by accumulating as many R3 & R4 picks as I could and still keeping 2 first round picks. I think you have to have all your picks graded as A's, with most being A+. Obviously, I needed to acquire even more picks by trading down a few more times to score enough to make the sites Top 20 scores, at least 45,000 pts.


Your score is: 41784 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 23 (N.E.): Yetur Gross-Matos, DE/OLB, Penn St. (A)
Round 1 Pick 26 (MIA): Kenneth Murray, ILB/OLB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 3 Pick 6 (MIA): Lucas Niang, OT, TCU (A+)
Round 3 Pick 8: Jeremy Chinn, FS/SS, S. Illinois (A)
Round 3 Pick 9 (JAX): Jordan Elliott, DT, Missouri (A)
Round 3 Pick 23 (N.E.): Chase Claypool, WR/TE, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 34 (N.E.): Zack Moss, RB, Utah (A+)
Round 4 Pick 6 (LAC): Logan Stenberg, OG, Kentucky (A+)
Round 4 Pick 7 (CAR): Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri (A+)
Round 4 Pick 8: Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 4 Pick 10 (JAX): Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF (A+)
Round 4 Pick 25: Jake Hanson, C/OG, Oregon (A)
Round 6 Pick 23: Reggie Robinson II, CB, Tulsa (A+)
Round 7 Pick 8: Darrynton Evans, RB, App. St. (A+
 
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