Carr has the same number of winning seasons, playoff appearances, and pro bowls in his first three seasons as Murray does. Carr did that with 2 different HCs in those years. Same level of incompetent franchise, and so may argue worse.
Carr has also had to work to overcome a laughable roster around him. One sub .500 season over the past three.
Saying he's similar to Murray when Murray is in tier 2 only supports my argument.
Carr is not a QB "You win because of" he's a "QB you win with". He has by far the worst win loss record of all the QB's in tier 1.
But either way, it's fine that you think differently to me. You don't have to try convince me, not me you. We can think differently.