Creative Genius he is not…

[DaHilg]

I think Pat P is a clown nowadays, but this speaks to even what the casual fan sees. Where my Kliffy defenders?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

So, he knew the offense, yet couldn't stop Rondale...got at least 1 or 2 PI's...and if the Cards OL could block just a bit better up the middle, with the Defense doing a little better, the Cards win the game. The reasons for the Cards losing has absolutely nothing to do with PP.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

So, he knew the offense, yet couldn't stop Rondale...got at least 1 or 2 PI's...and if the Cards OL could block just a bit better up the middle, with the Defense doing a little better, the Cards win the game. The reasons for the Cards losing has absolutely nothing to do with PP.

So no concern on your end that everyone in the stadium and at home knew exactly what they were going to run to start the game, or the fact that everyone in the NFL knows exactly what the Cards are going to run (err pass) all the time?

 

[TheCardFan]

If he knew what was being called - why did we score 34 and 26 points in the last two games vs PP21 (Vikings)? They knew but they couldn't stop it? We stopped ourselves.

More detail in the article below.

Vikings' Patrick Peterson details feud with Cardinals GM Steve Keim: 'Disrespect went to an all-time high'

Peterson helped Minnesota beat Arizona on Sunday

www.cbssports.com

 

[RON_IN_OC]

So no concern on your end that everyone in the stadium and at home knew exactly what they were going to run to start the game, or the fact that everyone in the NFL knows exactly what the Cards are going to run (err pass) all the time?

There are several teams that run predictable offenses, but they don't care and they are successful, because it's about having better athletes to execute and having the ability to call plays in a timely manner. I don't think there is anything wrong with Kliff's scheme, overall...but his play calling struggles are catching up to him, because he's got too much on his plate.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

If he knew what was being called - why did we score 34 and 26 points in the last two games vs PP21 (Vikings)? They knew but they couldn't stop it? We stopped ourselves.

More detail in the article below.

Vikings' Patrick Peterson details feud with Cardinals GM Steve Keim: 'Disrespect went to an all-time high'

Peterson helped Minnesota beat Arizona on Sunday

www.cbssports.com

Yup!

 

[ASUCHRIS]

There are several teams that run predictable offenses, but they don't care and they are successful, because it's about having better athletes to execute and having the ability to call plays in a timely manner.

This is true - you can be predictable if you are more talented and execute perfectly. That sounds like a poor formula for our current roster/coaching staff.

I don't think there is anything wrong with Kliff's scheme, overall

I think the predictability is a problem. Much smarter people can explain why our lack of shifts and motion put us at a disadvantage, among all the execution issues.

...but his play calling struggles are catching up to him, because he's got too much on his plate.

Yeah, Kliff has said himself that he's not the strongest at the head coaching CEO management responsibilities, and that he'd quit before giving up play calling. I wish the team would have listened to what Kliff said himself, and what is so obvious to everyone else in football.

 

[DaHilg]

So no concern on your end that everyone in the stadium and at home knew exactly what they were going to run to start the game, or the fact that everyone in the NFL knows exactly what the Cards are going to run (err pass) all the time?

This exactly.. wasn’t saying anything about PP being a reason we lost Ron

 

[Proximo]

So, he knew the offense, yet couldn't stop Rondale...got at least 1 or 2 PI's...and if the Cards OL could block just a bit better up the middle, with the Defense doing a little better, the Cards win the game. The reasons for the Cards losing has absolutely nothing to do with PP.

Exactly, if I was Pat I wouldn't be saying that publicly considering how little he produced.

 

[Proximo]

So no concern on your end that everyone in the stadium and at home knew exactly what they were going to run to start the game, or the fact that everyone in the NFL knows exactly what the Cards are going to run (err pass) all the time?

I don't think there are many Cards fans that are still big Kliff supporters. Stating that his offense is predictable, simplistic, and far from explosive kind of just deserves - tell me something I don't know response at this point.

 

[Goldfield]

I have been Luke warm on kliff since the beginning but I was curious to see how much he would improve over a few seasons. His offense is boring, predictable, and scared. We never look prepared. Never play with a sense of urgency until we’re behind and running out of time. I still think KM can be a pretty good QB but not without a HC that can use his talent correctly. Vance would be a huge upgrade at HC and that’s not saying much.

 

[AZfaninMN]

I wasn’t going to post this because I’m sick, and I’m sure the board is too, of Peterson. But since a thread was started I might as well contribute.

Dan Barriero hosts a show on the local sport affiliate M-F from 3-6:30. He’s a very good interviewer and will one day pit himself into the media HOF here in Minnesota. Every Monday after the Vikings games he brings Peterson on his show to talk about the game. This week being against the cardinals, Barriero had some “extra” questions he doesn’t normally ask Peterson. One of them was this:

Barriero posted a tweet on Sunday while watching the game

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He then asked Peterson his thoughts on what Dan had posted. Peterson’s exact words were “ I plead the fifth.” He laughed hysterically and repeating “I plead the fifth.” It’s Peterson, so take it for what it’s worth, but I found it interesting that the local media was worried because of our “dangerous offense and aggressive defense” to our mismanaged, poorly coached team.

 

[ajcardfan]

In the NFL, every team knows what the other team is going to do on offense. Every game, you can count on one hand, for even the worst defenses, plays that caught the defense completely off guard. PP is just puffing himself up here.

That said, no way in hell am I defending KKs playcalling.

 

[DaHilg]

In the NFL, every team knows what the other team is going to do on offense. Every game, you can count on one hand, for even the worst defenses, plays that caught the defense completely off guard. PP is just puffing himself up here.

That said, no way in hell am I defending KKs playcalling.

I don’t buy that first paragraph.. every Sunday you can see teams caught off guard by creative offensive schemes. They may know who the team wants to get the ball to and some tendencies but the best offensive minds very obviously scheme against the other teams weaknesses.. kinda like we should of done knowing 2 former players weaknesses like the back of our hand in PP and Hicks.

It’s still beyond wild to me the number of playcalling things the casual fan can call out.. wild what happened when we started having Moore run routes NOT behind the LOS. Separation galore - he looked the best I’ve ever seen him. Sad thing is that was just one simple concept we can ALL call out

 

[FB94]

I don’t buy that first paragraph.. every Sunday you can see teams caught off guard by creative offensive schemes. They may know who the team wants to get the ball to and some tendencies but the best offensive minds very obviously scheme against the other teams weaknesses.. kinda like we should of done knowing 2 former players weaknesses like the back of our hand in PP and Hicks.

It’s still beyond wild to me the number of playcalling things the casual fan can call out.. wild what happened when we started having Moore run routes NOT behind the LOS. Separation galore - he looked the best I’ve ever seen him. Sad thing is that was just one simple concept we can ALL call out

Every week the Chiefs have plays that seem to fool everyone, like wide open as in college wide open. The cardinals have had one or two all year to me

 

[PJ1]

So we scored 26 points with all of the mistakes we made. Not forced mistakes but just screwing up. PP is a joke. A clown and a fool. He knew nothing. I could cover AJ Green.

 

[ajcardfan]

Every week the Chiefs have plays that seem to fool everyone, like wide open as in college wide open. The cardinals have had one or two all year to me

Watch entire Chiefs games and count how many of those actually happen. They are the best, no doubt about it. But it will be fewer plays than you think. Those are also set up because defenses have such a hard time stopping KC when they have a great idea of what they are going to do in various formations.