The official Gannon/Monti/Petzing should be fired thread……

Would you fire Gannon if they don’t make the playoffs?

  • I’m in favor of keeping him regardless of what happens the remainder of the season

    Votes: 56 41.2%
  • I’m in favor of keeping him if they improve on last years record (9 wins or more)

    Votes: 15 11.0%
  • I’m in favor of keeping him if they just make the playoffs

    Votes: 15 11.0%
  • I’m only in favor of keeping him if they win a playoff game

    Votes: 11 8.1%
  • Fire Gannon no matter what

    Votes: 44 32.4%

  • Total voters
    136

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You have plenty of posters over the years falling all over themselves to elevate Mikey as some transformational upgrade over Bowtie. Delusional.
Little Mikey is a much better politician than his old man but that is about it.
 

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Little Mikey is a much better politician than his old man but that is about it.
Ha, his politics are a disaster. The old man was cheap but not a bad human being. Can't say the same about the failson.
 

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You have plenty of posters over the years falling all over themselves to elevate Mikey as some transformational upgrade over Bowtie. Delusional.
He’s like an eyelash better. But a worse human being, per people I know who’ve spent more than 5 min with him in the same room
 

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I love Kenny. He’s such a classy dude and very energetic. This is less about sabotaging ASU but more about getting a coach who cares and would crawl thru broken glass to ensure his team’s success.
That's a big reason why I wouldn't want to see him even look at the Cards. We don't need them bringing him down right as his college coaching career is taking off.
 

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I love Kenny. He’s such a classy dude and very energetic. This is less about sabotaging ASU but more about getting a coach who cares and would crawl thru broken glass to ensure his team’s success.
I’d rather ASU keep those characteristics than let Kenny anywhere near this dumpster fire of an organization.
 

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The team aren't going to see it like this because it's not logical.

If Kyler is bad enough you need to move on then how can you blame Petzing? If Petzing is bad enough that he needs firing them why would you move on from Kyler?
We've seen Murray in a different system that was specifically tailored to his abilities, and after the first few years on an upward trajectory, it went downhill quickly.

On many plays in Petzing's system (and Kingsbury's), as you've pointed out, Murray has opportunities to throw deeper passes like he used to, but chooses to check down or turtle instead.

But the gutless play calling with a lead that we've seen far too often, as well as complete lack of creativity in play design and now, with Adams gone, inability to get the run game going, are entirely on the coaches, and mostly on Petzing.

We've seen plenty of evidence that both need to go.
 

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We've seen Murray in a different system that was specifically tailored to his abilities, and after the first few years on an upward trajectory, it went downhill quickly.

On many plays in Petzing's system (and Kingsbury's), as you've pointed out, Murray has opportunities to throw deeper passes like he used to, but chooses to check down or turtle instead.

But the gutless play calling with a lead that we've seen far too often, as well as complete lack of creativity in play design and now, with Adams gone, inability to get the run game going, are entirely on the coaches, and mostly on Petzing.

We've seen plenty of evidence that both need to go.
I honestly don’t even put most of it on Petzing. This is how Gannon wants the offense to run. This is how damn near all defensive-minded Head Coaches are. I think this offense has a low ceiling even with a new OC & QB next year.
 

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still nothing from the organization eventho we're 26th in total yards per game (288.4) 30th in passing yards per game (170.2) 23rd in points per game (20.6) and 27th in yards per play (4.8)

but hey let's ride this out - even after kyler lowkey drug petzing in the presser - he's been pouting all season trying not to get vocal but it spilled out last night - petzing has lost his quarterback

and about gannon being infuriated with cado in public - where was that anger when petzing kneeled on 3rd down - didn't petzing essentially stop before play was over as well? what's good for the goose is good for the gander yet petzing gets left in peace
 

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But that of course didn't save Wilkes or Rosen my friend.

Firing an OC midseason is bad business. It's a worst case scenario on a lot of levels.

I agree with you and think DP has probably got to go, but firing him now won't save the season.
I have said that as well. You do it to show that results are rewarded or punished. BPB needs to be made an example of. This team is poorly coached and the offense is the worst offender of that.
 

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Ha, his politics are a disaster. The old man was cheap but not a bad human being. Can't say the same about the failson.
He just secured some prime realestate in North Phx/Scottsdale. I promise you Bidwill is an excellent politician.

I have long known the tiny tyrant is a horrible human being.

Any dude that is his age that has never been linked to a long term relationship for sure has issues.
 

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He just secured some prime realestate in North Phx/Scottsdale. I promise you Bidwill is an excellent politician.

I have long known the tiny tyrant is a horrible human being.

Any dude that is his age that has never been linked to a long term relationship for sure has issues.
Sorry, I should have been more clear...he's a total jerk as a human being, and that is reflected in his politics.
 

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Does that mean those yards don't count? So inflated or not the stats are what they are statistics.
The overall average is misleading. You can't run a successful offense based on having your primary and secondary backs getting 2.8 yards per carry on 22 carries, and hoping for your change of pace back to break off a 71-yard run on one of his three carries.
 
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