Who’s our next qb?

[Cbus cardsfan]

Jets 16
Steelers 20

You would have to jump them.

possibly but not necessarily. I don't think the Steelers are taking him. They supposedly like Will Howard from last year's draft too.
That's our brilliant GM's job to know.

 

[BritCard]

Yes he is, he is 3 years removed from high school and he can petition based on losing his his starting job. The NFL doesn't have to approve it.

Losing your starting job doesn't meet the criteria for entering the supplemental draft.

It's only for players whose legal or academic situation made them ineligible for the main draft and their status has since changed. You can't be eligible for the April draft, turn it down, and then go into the supplemental.

Jalen Thompson for example was banned from football for taking an over the counter med that contained a restricted substance. He was banned in June after the January deadline for the April draftm and because he was ineligible for college ball he qualified for the supplemental.

If someone could go spike Dante Moore's sports drink with something banned that would be most useful.

 

[Stout]

possibly but not necessarily. I don't think the Steelers are taking him. They supposedly like Will Howard from last year's draft too.
That's our brilliant GM's job to know.

A lot of people are scratching their heads here about all the Will Howard talk. He never played in the pre-season and rarely practiced, so WTF are they basing this on? Personally, it is a smoke screen.

 

[PDXChris]

Losing your starting job doesn't meet the criteria for entering the supplemental draft.

It's only for players whose legal or academic situation made them ineligible for the main draft and their status has since changed. You can't be eligible for the April draft, turn it down, and then go into the supplemental.

Jalen Thompson for example was banned from football for taking an over the counter med that contained a restricted substance. He was banned in June after the January deadline for the April draftm and because he was ineligible for college ball he qualified for the supplemental.

If someone could go spike Dante Moore's sports drink with something banned that would be most useful.

Wrong again. A player can apply as long as they are 3 years removed from High School. It is up the NFL to approve or not and here are a list of players who were approved that do not fit your opinion. And the fact that Chambliss won a lawsuit to allow him to get his 13th year of eligibility, courts are going to side with the players is Moore wanted to sue.

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[oaken1]

Wrong again. A player can apply as long as they are 3 years removed from High School. It is up the NFL to approve or not and here are a list of players who were approved that do not fit your opinion. And the fact that Chambliss won a lawsuit to allow him to get his 13th year of eligibility, courts are going to side with the players is Moore wanted to sue.

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Those three in 89 and 94 seem to be the most relevant.
they just didnt declare for the draft..for whatever reason.
Moore seems to fall into that category pretty cleanly.

 

[BritCard]

Wrong again. A player can apply as long as they are 3 years removed from High School. It is up the NFL to approve or not and here are a list of players who were approved that do not fit your opinion. And the fact that Chambliss won a lawsuit to allow him to get his 13th year of eligibility, courts are going to side with the players is Moore wanted to sue.

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All these are ancient and none of them are "I lost my starting job".

He's absolutely not illegible. I guarantee it.

This is obvious because otherwise there would be 50 guys in the supplemental every year.

Here's the line exactly from the NFL rules.

"No player may elect to bypass the Principal Draft to apply for a Supplemental Draft."

 

[BritCard]

Those three in 89 and 94 seem to be the most relevant.
they just didnt declare for the draft..for whatever reason.
Moore seems to fall into that category pretty cleanly.

The Kosar loophole was changed in 1994. The rules changed.

You need a material change in circumstances that meet the criteria. Losing your starting job or changing you mind isn't one.

Back then players were using it to choose where they were drafted. They would skip the draft, let' the crappy teams take a QB then "graduate* and declare for the supplemental.

It can't happen anymore.

 

[602 Native]

Best throw in shorts you will see all draft season.

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[ajcardfan]

Best throw in shorts you will see all draft season.

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He is going to throw some of the most beautiful interceptions you have ever seen.

 

[602 Native]

He is going to throw some of the most beautiful interceptions you have ever seen.

Not a single part of his game stands out.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Not a single part of his game stands out.

A single thing doesn't have to stand out. Being a good QB isn't about a single trait. It helps to have a cannon but not required.

What really stands out about Mendoza?
He's just a good QB overall.

I'm not advocating for Simpson and the more I look, the more I question Mendoza. He's by no means a can"t miss.

 

[ajcardfan]

A single thing doesn't have to stand out. Being a good QB isn't about a single trait. It helps to have a cannon but not required.

What really stands out about Mendoza?
He's just a good QB overall.

I'm not advocating for Simpson and the more I look, the more I question Mendoza. He's by no means a can"t miss.

Yes. I said that during the college season after they played Penn St and was chastised for that opinion.

In this draft, he is the best prospect and is who I would take at #1. But he isn't as much of a sure thing as some past number ones. JMO.

 

[602 Native]

A single thing doesn't have to stand out. Being a good QB isn't about a single trait. It helps to have a cannon but not required.

What really stands out about Mendoza?
He's just a good QB overall.

I'm not advocating for Simpson and the more I look, the more I question Mendoza. He's by no means a can"t miss.

Mendoza is the ultimate leader and there hasn't been a QB like him in almost a decade. He is Joe Burrow.

 

[some dumb guy]

Mendoza is the ultimate leader and there hasn't been a QB like him in almost a decade. He is Joe Burrow.

I like Joe Burrow, but I believe you just opened the door for Joe's injury history

 

[602 Native]

I like Joe Burrow, but I believe you just opened the door for Joe's injury history

Almost impossible to forecast injuries to players. Some have them in college and not in the NFL. Some don't have them in college but have them in the NFL.

From a QB perspective I think Mendoza has a Burrow like ceiling. He is the most complete prospect I have seen in a while.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Mendoza is the ultimate leader and there hasn't been a QB like him in almost a decade. He is Joe Burrow.

He's not close to Joe Burrow as a leader and face of the franchise to me.

He does seem to have the clutch gene though.

Actually, I think Simpson is more comparable to Burrow in style of play.

 

[Harry]

Almost impossible to forecast injuries to players. Some have them in college and not in the NFL. Some don't have them in college but have them in the NFL.

From a QB perspective I think Mendoza has a Burrow like ceiling. He is the most complete prospect I have seen in a while.

Accurate position, I hope the rest of the board accepts it and stop berating people because an injury happens. There are fragile players but ones without that history are just victims of chance. For example attacking Ossenfort for selecting Nolen makes no sense. Looks like a great choice to me.

 

[kerouac9]

For example attacking Ossenfort for selecting Nolen makes no sense.

Who is doing this?

Also:
Is it fair to criticize Monti for drafting (oft-)injured prospects like Garrett Williams and BJ Ojulari? What about hiring and keeping a training staff who can’t keep players on the field?

 

[Stout]

He's not close to Joe Burrow as a leader and face of the franchise to me.

He does seem to have the clutch gene though.

Actually, I think Simpson is more comparable to Burrow in style of play.

Alright, this has to be punking someone. Are you trying to punk someone with this post? You can't actually be serious here, right?

I'm laying a marker down. If we mistakenly draft this kid, you're getting the first "What do you say now?" when he craters. Well, you'll get the second one.

 

[slanidrac16]

Here we go again. There was a Facebook post claiming the parameters are in place for the Cardinals to acquire Tyler Bagent from the Bears.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Bagent: lol.

 

[BritCard]

Here we go again. There was a Facebook post claiming the parameters are in place for the Cardinals to acquire Tyler Bagent from the Bears.

It's automatically not real then. Nobody under 50 uses Facebook. Who broke it? Tom Moore?

 

[Stout]

It's automatically not real then. Nobody under 50 uses Facebook. Who broke it? Tom Moore?

Hey, I'm not 50 until July and I still use it!

 

[JosiahLee]

Who is doing this?

Also:
Is it fair to criticize Monti for drafting (oft-)injured prospects like Garrett Williams and BJ Ojulari? What about hiring and keeping a training staff who can’t keep players on the field?

Yeah if the athletic trainers were retained, which I’m guessing they were? This team is destined to be a top 5 injured team again next season.

 

[slanidrac16]

It's automatically not real then. Nobody under 50 uses Facebook. Who broke it? Tom Moore?

Can’t find the exact post. However, Schecter made note the Bears signed Casey Keenum for 5.5m. Lots of money for a 3rd string qb which has started up the rumors.
Considering the supposedly interest in Brissett I guess you could see an angle.