Who’s our next qb?

[Hoodhero]

He’s the same guy that almost fainted when he heard Gannon was fired.

I know. That was just plain sad smh

 

[Fitz4Ever]

We have a really sticky situation for any new coach. If we draft a QB this year...it will most likely be the 3rd QB in draft and it will be a substantial reach.

If we don't draft a QB...then we would at least hope/expect that the Cardinals could win a few more games next year with the addition of 3 picks inside the top 65/Free Agency/New Coaching etc. Lets say we stick with either Kyler or Jacoby and we win 7 games next year....the year is still a failure in a lot of ways, but now it will be almost impossible for us to trade up and get a "franchise QB" in the 2027 draft.

I dont think a new coach...and I don't really want a coach...who would be willing to have a tank year in 2026 in order to position ourselves for next years draft. So IMO we have 3 possible choices.

1. We keep Kyler- We better not select our coach to fit Kyler....we need a coach who demands and can get Kyler to fit their system. We give Kyler a 3rd chance, and probably 2 years max. We wont be a 3 win team again...but we might very well be stuck in mediocrity at 6-8 wins and never in a position to draft a franchise QB.

2. We trade up for the #1 pick and we draft Mendoza. It would probably cost us a good chunk of our next 2 drafts, if the Raiders are even willing to trade it. We go into next year either starting Jacoby or Mendoza (Mendoza starting at some point during the year). We probably suck again....maybe 5 wins or so...but we don't own our draft pick. Mendoza has to be good enough to elevate the current roster because we wont be adding much to it for a couple years.

3. We trade Kyler for whatever we can get, and we trade down from #3 and try to stockpile picks for the 27 draft. This might include moving back quite a bit in round 1...into the teens or later...and hoping that we would suck enough to get another top 5 pick...a completely wasted year. If we have a top 5 pick...plus an additional 1st and some extra picks to trade...we could most likely get up to the top 2 in order to take our "franchise QB" in 2027....but none of that is guaranteed.

All that being said...we will end up with a coach who has no other options to be a HC in 2026. No established coach is signing up for this scenario unless they absolutely think Kyler is full of untapped potential and they can make the playoffs with him right away.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

Posted this on another thread. If we could swap 1st round picks sign me up. Most of these reports are so bogus though.

Raiders interested in trading for Cardinals' Kyler Murray in 2026 offseason

GLENDALE – It’s no secret about the Arizona Cardinals desire in trading away quarterback Kyler Murray. The seven-year Cardinals quarterback has likely played his last snap with the franchise after a nasty breakup and benching in Week 9 that has soured the relationship between both parties. Teams...

burncitysports.com

This would be the absolute best case scenario for us. We get off Murray and get Mendoza without mortgaging multiple years of draft picks.

Next year we probably still suck, but we could start Jacoby and bring Mendoza along at some point in the year. Our new coach has to want Mendoza though....like REALLY want him and think he can turn him into a top 10 QB while still on his rookie deal. I don't know who that would be other than maybe Stefanski?

 

[slanidrac16]

We have a really sticky situation for any new coach. If we draft a QB this year...it will most likely be the 3rd QB in draft and it will be a substantial reach.

If we don't draft a QB...then we would at least hope/expect that the Cardinals could win a few more games next year with the addition of 3 picks inside the top 65/Free Agency/New Coaching etc. Lets say we stick with either Kyler or Jacoby and we win 7 games next year....the year is still a failure in a lot of ways, but now it will be almost impossible for us to trade up and get a "franchise QB" in the 2027 draft.

I dont think a new coach...and I don't really want a coach...who would be willing to have a tank year in 2026 in order to position ourselves for next years draft. So IMO we have 3 possible choices.

1. We keep Kyler- We better not select our coach to fit Kyler....we need a coach who demands and can get Kyler to fit their system. We give Kyler a 3rd chance, and probably 2 years max. We wont be a 3 win team again...but we might very well be stuck in mediocrity at 6-8 wins and never in a position to draft a franchise QB.

2. We trade up for the #1 pick and we draft Mendoza. It would probably cost us a good chunk of our next 2 drafts, if the Raiders are even willing to trade it. We go into next year either starting Jacoby or Mendoza (Mendoza starting at some point during the year). We probably suck again....maybe 5 wins or so...but we don't own our draft pick. Mendoza has to be good enough to elevate the current roster because we wont be adding much to it for a couple years.

3. We trade Kyler for whatever we can get, and we trade down from #3 and try to stockpile picks for the 27 draft. This might include moving back quite a bit in round 1...into the teens or later...and hoping that we would suck enough to get another top 5 pick...a completely wasted year. If we have a top 5 pick...plus an additional 1st and some extra picks to trade...we could most likely get up to the top 2 in order to take our "franchise QB" in 2027....but none of that is guaranteed.

All that being said...we will end up with a coach who has no other options to be a HC in 2026. No established coach is signing up for this scenario unless they absolutely think Kyler is full of untapped potential and they can make the playoffs with him right away.

You play to win the game. If we approach this year with “ we’ll be mediocre’ we are already doomed.
This roster needs to get better. The scheme has to be better. The coaching has to be better.
Qb is important. But there are a lot of good qb’s that are at home watching the playoffs.
Did anybody see the emergence of Derrick Maye this year? Would anybody say that Bryce Young is great?

Bottom line is we don’t significantly improve this roster it’s not going to matter.
I see Brissett starting the season and drafting a Qb. What round? Who knows. A lot will depend on the head coach.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

I think we need to start looking at the 2nd tier of QBs who we could get in rounds 2-3 and sit behind Brissett for a year.

Simpson (most likely goes in the 20's so this is a long shot)
Beck
Allar
Mateer
Nussemier

If we get a coach who knows how to develop a QB...Im fine with BPA at #3 or a trade down, and a QB in rounds 2 or 3. I don't want a late round flyer...but in this years draft I would not be shocked to find out the #5 QB drafted is just as good as the #2 QB drafted. Its Mendoza, and then everyone else. Im not a fan of Moore.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

You play to win the game. If we approach this year with “ we’ll be mediocre’ we are already doomed.
This roster needs to get better. The scheme has to be better. The coaching has to be better.
Qb is important. But there are a lot of good qb’s that are at home watching the playoffs.
Did anybody see the emergence of Derrick Maye this year? Would anybody say that Bryce Young is great?

Bottom line is we don’t significantly improve this roster it’s not going to matter.
I see Brissett starting the season and drafting a Qb. What round? Who knows. A lot will depend on the head coach.

The only way we are not mediocre next year is if we bring in someone who suddenly unlocks Kyler and we already have our franchise QB.

If we go with Brissett next year...we will win a few of those one score games from earlier in the season...we will have improved the roster with 3 Top 65 picks and Free Agency (hopefully) and we will have a better scheme. The problem is mediocre is all you are ever going to get with Brissett. He is a mediocre QB...and has never won anything. I would bet we finish with 6 wins next year if Jacoby is the starter.

If we go with a rookie QB...we will most likely see growing pains and rookie mistakes...making us mediocre at best...terrible at worst. Even more so if we have settled for the #3 or worse QB in a weak QB draft.

The chances of being very good next year with Brissett or a Rookie QB are both very low IMO. Mediocre (meaning 6-8 wins max) seems like our best case scenario for 2026

 

[slanidrac16]

The only way we are not mediocre next year is if we bring in someone who suddenly unlocks Kyler and we already have our franchise QB.

If we go with Brissett next year...we will win a few of those one score games from earlier in the season...we will have improved the roster with 3 Top 65 picks and Free Agency (hopefully) and we will have a better scheme. The problem is mediocre is all you are ever going to get with Brissett. He is a mediocre QB...and has never won anything. I would bet we finish with 6 wins next year if Jacoby is the starter.

If we go with a rookie QB...we will most likely see growing pains and rookie mistakes...making us mediocre at best...terrible at worst. Even more so if we have settled for the #3 or worse QB in a weak QB draft.

The chances of being very good next year with Brissett or a Rookie QB are both very low IMO. Mediocre (meaning 6-8 wins max) seems like our best case scenario for 2026

Can’t argue this. Could we go out a ledge and bring in a guy like Malik Willis?

 

[Harry]

He wants to go back to Ole Miss for a year and has already signed with them. Pending the NCAAs decision on his waiver.

Smart move for him.

Ole Miss QB Trinidad Chambliss re-signs with Rebels contingent on NCAA eligibility waiver

Chambliss emerged as a star for the Rebels this season amid their College Football Playoff run

www.cbssports.com

I don’t think he gets it so he comes out. Not on my nice list

 

[Harry]

Sign Willis for 2 years. If he works great. If not in 2027 dump Brissett. If Willis struggles, he becomes the backup.

 

[slanidrac16]

Sign Willis for 2 years. If he works great. If not in 2027 dump Brissett. If Willis struggles, he becomes the backup.

Get ready to duck Harry. The “ He sucks and cost too much money” gang are about to arrive at your door step

 

[Chopper0080]

Unless something crazy happens I could see us punting at QB a bit this next year. I am just not seeing too many options worth tossing money or picks at. Still early tho.

 

[kerouac9]

The option that makes the most logical sense is hire an offensive head coach, play Murray next year, trade Jacoby Brissett for a third round pick, and draft a prospect in the second or third round.

Don’t know how much of the Wilsonnaince was driven by Jacoby vs Peting, but Kyler’s easy to release in 2027 and can keep you competitive. Also won’t get Monti fired (his #1 priority).

 

[slanidrac16]

The option that makes the most logical sense is hire an offensive head coach, play Murray next year, trade Jacoby Brissett for a third round pick, and draft a prospect in the second or third round.

Don’t know how much of the Wilsonnaince was driven by Jacoby vs Peting, but Kyler’s easy to release in 2027 and can keep you competitive. Also won’t get Monti fired (his #1 priority).

A 3rd for Jacoby? I don’t think so.

 

[kerouac9]

A 3rd for Jacoby? I don’t think so.

Why not? Has making almost nothing, he’s durable, experienced, and he can run your offense for six games.

I’d rather have that than a chance at the next Elijah Jones. A team like Indy or Minnesota should jump at that opportunity.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Sign Willis for 2 years. If he works great. If not in 2027 dump Brissett. If Willis struggles, he becomes the backup.

How about getting Willis … then going o line with first 2 picks… then Coleman the Washington huskie in the third? This after hiring Adams as the coach..,, pound the rock baby!!!!

 

[AustrianCardFan]

The option that makes the most logical sense is hire an offensive head coach, play Murray next year, trade Jacoby Brissett for a third round pick, and draft a prospect in the second or third round.

Don’t know how much of the Wilsonnaince was driven by Jacoby vs Peting, but Kyler’s easy to release in 2027 and can keep you competitive. Also won’t get Monti fired (his #1 priority).

My problem with that plan is that Kyler is (if at least some of the reports are true) probably one of the worst mentors for any young QB. Unless someone thinks his "in my head I see so much" technic is teachable.

 

[Fitz4Ever]

We could probably take Bain 3rd... A RT in round 2....and a QB in round 3. A guy like Carson Beck comes to mind. You start the year with Brissett...and you give Beck a chance to play later in the year if the season has gone poorly.

This assumes we get a coach that knows how to actually develop a QB.

Mateer, Neurimeur, Allar.....Sellers if he comes out. You have to ask the new coach..if you could have any QB in the draft who would it be, and then go get him

 

[kerouac9]

My problem with that plan is that Kyler is (if at least some of the reports are true) probably one of the worst mentors for any young QB. Unless someone thinks his "in my head I see so much" technic is teachable.

I don’t care a whit about Kyler’s mentorship abilities. Hire an assistant to be a rookie’s 24/7 mentor like Kafka was for Mahomes. Or not.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don’t care a whit about Kyler’s mentorship abilities. Hire an assistant to be a rookie’s 24/7 mentor like Kafka was for Mahomes. Or not.

In this scenario, you need an OC with a QB focus, a QB coach with a QB focus, and an asst QB coach with a rookie mentor focus.

Drew Allar is an easy example of drafting a toolsy QB in the mid rounds to just sit and learn behind Murray and Brissett, never playing a snap. Not saying he is the guy to target, just that he is a toolsy draft option who needs a lot of work.

Personally, I hate the idea of Kyler and his impact on the receiving game so the premise is revolting to me but I get it.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

We have a really sticky situation for any new coach. If we draft a QB this year...it will most likely be the 3rd QB in draft and it will be a substantial reach.

1. We keep Kyler- We better not select our coach to fit Kyler....we need a coach who demands and can get Kyler to fit their system. We give Kyler a 3rd chance, and probably 2 years max. We wont be a 3 win team again...but we might very well be stuck in mediocrity at 6-8 wins and never in a position to draft a franchise QB.

Yeah if we keep K1 I want a HC and an OC that's going to be right in his grill 24/7 from the jump.

 

[kerouac9]

In this scenario, you need an OC with a QB focus, a QB coach with a QB focus, and an asst QB coach with a rookie mentor focus.

Drew Allar is an easy example of drafting a toolsy QB in the mid rounds to just sit and learn behind Murray and Brissett, never playing a snap. Not saying he is the guy to target, just that he is a toolsy draft option who needs a lot of work.

Personally, I hate the idea of Kyler and his impact on the receiving game so the premise is revolting to me but I get it.

FWIW I distribute blame for Target share the past two seasons 65% Petzing and 35% Kyler.


It’s pre-Green Bay game, but Kyler was doing a good job distributing targets among Ertz, Green, Hop, and Kirk. Maybe he could do that again. It just seems like that Stefanski offense struggles to diversify target share.

 

[HairZach]

My problem with that plan is that Kyler is (if at least some of the reports are true) probably one of the worst mentors for any young QB. Unless someone thinks his "in my head I see so much" technic is teachable.

The young QBs learning from the starter trope is overstated. They mainly learn the game/technique from the QB coach. They learn practice habits observing the starter, get some pointers here and there.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Why not? Has making almost nothing, he’s durable, experienced, and he can run your offense for six games.

I’d rather have that than a chance at the next Elijah Jones. A team like Indy or Minnesota should jump at that opportunity.

no one is giving up a 3rd for a career journeyman back-up QB who just lost his last 9 games.

and Kyler's gone.

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

We have a really sticky situation for any new coach. If we draft a QB this year...it will most likely be the 3rd QB in draft and it will be a substantial reach.

If we don't draft a QB...then we would at least hope/expect that the Cardinals could win a few more games next year with the addition of 3 picks inside the top 65/Free Agency/New Coaching etc. Lets say we stick with either Kyler or Jacoby and we win 7 games next year....the year is still a failure in a lot of ways, but now it will be almost impossible for us to trade up and get a "franchise QB" in the 2027 draft.

I dont think a new coach...and I don't really want a coach...who would be willing to have a tank year in 2026 in order to position ourselves for next years draft. So IMO we have 3 possible choices.

1. We keep Kyler- We better not select our coach to fit Kyler....we need a coach who demands and can get Kyler to fit their system. We give Kyler a 3rd chance, and probably 2 years max. We wont be a 3 win team again...but we might very well be stuck in mediocrity at 6-8 wins and never in a position to draft a franchise QB.

2. We trade up for the #1 pick and we draft Mendoza. It would probably cost us a good chunk of our next 2 drafts, if the Raiders are even willing to trade it. We go into next year either starting Jacoby or Mendoza (Mendoza starting at some point during the year). We probably suck again....maybe 5 wins or so...but we don't own our draft pick. Mendoza has to be good enough to elevate the current roster because we wont be adding much to it for a couple years.

3. We trade Kyler for whatever we can get, and we trade down from #3 and try to stockpile picks for the 27 draft. This might include moving back quite a bit in round 1...into the teens or later...and hoping that we would suck enough to get another top 5 pick...a completely wasted year. If we have a top 5 pick...plus an additional 1st and some extra picks to trade...we could most likely get up to the top 2 in order to take our "franchise QB" in 2027....but none of that is guaranteed.

All that being said...we will end up with a coach who has no other options to be a HC in 2026. No established coach is signing up for this scenario unless they absolutely think Kyler is full of untapped potential and they can make the playoffs with him right away.

There maybe another way "A very Big if"say Raiders want Murray so we trade him and our 1st for #1 I know Ime dreaming but stranger things Harbaugh to the Colts Jamarcus Russell, Ryan Leaf etc to name a few

 

[AZ Native]

fudge Wolf.

He might be right.