Week 6 - Let's not Overreact - Brissett passes the test

[slanidrac16]

See below. Also, you get more attempts when you manage to stay on the field longer.

Don’t bother Stout.

 

[Harry]

petzing and kyler is the worst match up ever

clear as day - petzing's offense made brissett look like more than serviceable quarterback - 1 sack to 320 yards - gtfoh - although i would like to know how many times jacoby got hit tho (not just pressured)

kyler is screwed - he cussed out the guy who wanted to unleash him upon the nfl and ultimately got him ish canned - then walks in gannon who wasn't haven't none of that - gotta put some controls on that quarterback lol

now murray (who could very well be a much better qb under another oc) lives his nightmare - to do what he's been told even if he doesn't like it

you can tell murray to stay in the pocket same way you can tell my claustrophobic aunt to stay in the closet - she'll try but she aint lasting long

murray's not changing - petzing's not changing - people don't change - so we have to choose

Dump both

 

[Harry]

I am confused. I am asking in mid March that if a team is drafting 8 and the Cardinals are drafting 13, do you think Murray has enough value to get that team to trade from 8 down to 13 in round 1 vs taking the 1nd or 3rd QB in an underwhelming draft class.

Too early to label class underwhelming.

 

[slanidrac16]

Dump both

We all have been screaming Petzing is what’s holding Murray back. Maybe it’s the other way around.
Maybe Petzing needs a real qb?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

There’s a decent chance the Titans only win this season will have come against a team with Monti & Gannon’s handprints on it.

This what made your posts in the game thread so funny to me @Ouchie-Z-Clown

Eh, I know the board is prone to hyperbole but I’ve seen plenty of criticism of Gannon continue based on the defense folding yet again.

Regardless, at the end of the day I think this game evidences a couple items:

A) some proof that Kyler is a poor fit for petzig’s offense (of which I’m still not a fan in the absence of klayton). It’s only one game, so it could be a mirage. But a veteran journeyman undeniably drove it more effectively than a guy who has been in the offense for two+ years. That’s pretty damning. Btw, that’s also damning of the coaching staff that they’ve stuck with Kyler. And monti too for the same reason.

And that still doesn’t mean people were “celebrating” or whatever word it was you used. It just means they received confirmation of what they believed. Trust me, I would rather believe that Petzig just doesn’t know how to utilize Kyler than receive confirmation that Kyler is not the answer. We saw the latter and not the former yesterday. That’s confirmation of my perspective, but it’s not something I celebrate.

B) Gannon and raillis can’t put the clamps on defensively when it’s most crucial. That means we have a coaching staff and starting QB who fold when the spotlight gets brightest. That’s a disastrous combination.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don't think Kyler has these stats yesterday.

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[slanidrac16]

I agree.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Ugh, seven 1 or less win teams. Bad year to stink.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Ugh, seven 1 or less win teams. Bad year to stink.

we can do it ouchie

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

we can do it ouchie

lol. I appreciate your “optimism.”

 

[JosiahLee]

Today showed that Kyler is, indeed, a major problem with this franchise. When your QB can't function properly in his role (and his backup can), you're not winning anything. When's the last time Kyler threw for 300 yards in any circumstance? A long time. Everyone thinks the offensive play calls and the receivers are the problem...well, not for the backup. Proof positive today that Kyler is not and never will be the answer at QB. Final nail in his coffin and good riddance. Now let's sent everyone else from Monti to Petzing out the door after him.

Stout, I just don't know that it's that black and white.

Kyler has done himself no favors, but we can't ignore the last 3 years he's been in Petzing's run-first system. That system literally changed on Sunday. After 3 embarrassing losses due to coaching, and losing his top 3 RBs, and due to the fact he's now coaching for his job, this offense just finally became a passing offense for the first time.

Don't get me wrong, JB was finding some chunk plays that have been missing all season. But if we insert K1 into that game, I can't help but thinking he's getting 40 plus attempts as well.

I'm encouraged by JB's play, but in the same breathe he wasn't the savior either. His redzone play wasn't exactly clutch. The pick in the first half and then coming up empty at the end when it's 1st and goal when you have to have it is disappointing. If JB throws for another 300 yds against GB and looks efficient, and then K1 comes out after the bye and looks terrible in Dallas, I'm with you, at that point it will be time to move on.

 

[602 Native]

Stout, I just don't know that it's that black and white.

Kyler has done himself no favors, but we can't ignore the last 3 years he's been in Petzing's run-first system. That system literally changed on Sunday. After 3 embarrassing losses due to coaching, and losing his top 3 RBs, and due to the fact he's now coaching for his job, this offense just finally became a passing offense for the first time.

Don't get me wrong, JB was finding some chunk plays that have been missing all season. But if we insert K1 into that game, I can't help but thinking he's getting 40 plus attempts as well.

I'm encouraged by JB's play, but in the same breathe he wasn't the savior either. His redzone play wasn't exactly clutch. The pick in the first half and then coming up empty at the end when it's 1st and goal when you have to have it is disappointing. If JB throws for another 300 yds against GB and looks efficient, and then K1 comes out after the bye and looks terrible in Dallas, I'm with you, at that point it will be time to move on.

This is a very rational well thought out response.

I am all for it.

 

[Harry]

We all have been screaming Petzing is what’s holding Murray back. Maybe it’s the other way around.
Maybe Petzing needs a real qb?

Don’t believe it. Late game runs turn me off.

 

[DaHilg]

Only if Kyler completes the passes. Big assumption.

Completion percentage is not a big assumption for him based on the stats lol. The hate bleeds deep in you

 

[daves]

Who's trading for a QB that got benched for Brissett?

Every GM in the league saw the difference in the offense between Murray and Brissett... it's not as if starting Murray again will fool anyone into thinking that Murray is actually good.

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They aren't better over the long term because they are journeyman backups. But we expect and need our starting QB to be better over the long term than Murray has been.

I just don’t understand all the Kyler hate today. Does anyone really think K1 is the reason for the 3 previous losses before today?

There were multiple reasons for the 3 previous losses, but had Murray played as well as he should have, the Cards could've won all three.

We just got all the evidence we need that Murray has to go.

I'd like to see more games with Brissett at QB - by no means to evaluate Brissett, as we know what he is - but to better evaluate Petzing, Rallis, and Gannon with Murray removed from the equation.

 

[Stout]

Stout, I just don't know that it's that black and white.

Kyler has done himself no favors, but we can't ignore the last 3 years he's been in Petzing's run-first system. That system literally changed on Sunday. After 3 embarrassing losses due to coaching, and losing his top 3 RBs, and due to the fact he's now coaching for his job, this offense just finally became a passing offense for the first time.

Don't get me wrong, JB was finding some chunk plays that have been missing all season. But if we insert K1 into that game, I can't help but thinking he's getting 40 plus attempts as well.

I'm encouraged by JB's play, but in the same breathe he wasn't the savior either. His redzone play wasn't exactly clutch. The pick in the first half and then coming up empty at the end when it's 1st and goal when you have to have it is disappointing. If JB throws for another 300 yds against GB and looks efficient, and then K1 comes out after the bye and looks terrible in Dallas, I'm with you, at that point it will be time to move on.

Seems like clutching at straws to defend Kyler to me. Seems like Petzing was able to take the handcuffs off the offense with a prototypical QB versus the Kyler ish show.

 

[Stout]

Stout, I just don't know that it's that black and white.

Kyler has done himself no favors, but we can't ignore the last 3 years he's been in Petzing's run-first system. That system literally changed on Sunday. After 3 embarrassing losses due to coaching, and losing his top 3 RBs, and due to the fact he's now coaching for his job, this offense just finally became a passing offense for the first time.

Don't get me wrong, JB was finding some chunk plays that have been missing all season. But if we insert K1 into that game, I can't help but thinking he's getting 40 plus attempts as well.

I'm encouraged by JB's play, but in the same breathe he wasn't the savior either. His redzone play wasn't exactly clutch. The pick in the first half and then coming up empty at the end when it's 1st and goal when you have to have it is disappointing. If JB throws for another 300 yds against GB and looks efficient, and then K1 comes out after the bye and looks terrible in Dallas, I'm with you, at that point it will be time to move on.

Seems like clutching at straws to defend Kyler to me. Seems like Petzing was able to take the handcuffs off the offense with a prototypical QB versus the Kyler ish show.

 

[kerouac9]

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Won’t someone call the police to report this drive by? Silence is violence.

 

[Mr X]

The system changed on Sunday due to the fact that Brissett can play under center and do play action from it. Kyler wont, cant or isn't good enough to run it.

 

[KYCardFan]

When blitzed during the Arizona Cardinals' October 12, 2025, game against the Indianapolis Colts, quarterback Jacoby Brissett struggled, completing just 6 of 20 passes for 91 yards with two sacks
. He was significantly more effective when not under pressure, leading to a polarizing performance in a 31–27 loss.

 

[PJ1]

When blitzed during the Arizona Cardinals' October 12, 2025, game against the Indianapolis Colts, quarterback Jacoby Brissett struggled, completing just 6 of 20 passes for 91 yards with two sacks
. He was significantly more effective when not under pressure, leading to a polarizing performance in a 31–27 loss.

And he put more points on the board than the starting QB has in any game this year. Lost his top WR early in game and still kept the team moving. The D lost the game. Not even a question.

 

[slanidrac16]

Completion percentage is not a big assumption for him based on the stats lol. The hate bleeds deep in you

We’ll talk again when Kyler has his next 320 yard, 2td performance.

 

[BritCard]

Every GM in the league saw the difference in the offense between Murray and Brissett... it's not as if starting Murray again will fool anyone into thinking that Murray is actually good.


They aren't better over the long term because they are journeyman backups. But we expect and need our starting QB to be better over the long term than Murray has been.


There were multiple reasons for the 3 previous losses, but had Murray played as well as he should have, the Cards could've won all three.

We just got all the evidence we need that Murray has to go.

I'd like to see more games with Brissett at QB - by no means to evaluate Brissett, as we know what he is - but to better evaluate Petzing, Rallis, and Gannon with Murray removed from the equation.

I think the trade talk is pretty nuts. Who wanted to trade for Andy Dalton in 2020? Dalton had a superior career to the same point, although he'd just finished his 9th year, not his 7th. Like Kyler he had Pro bowls on his resume but also multiple playoff appearances and some actual wins.

And Dalton didn't have Kyler's fat contract either. I think people are dreaming that someone is going to come and take that contract off the Cards hands and give them a pick.

Mike is going to have to eat a bunch of the money to get anytone to even give us a 5th, and even then I'd expect Kyler to outright refuse any trade he doesn't like. If it was the Jets for example I'd expect him to have his agent release another memo.

 

[Stout]

We’ll talk again when Kyler has his next 320 yard, 2td performance.

Oh, but didn't you realize the only reason he doesn't do that is because the coaches hate him and won't give him good play calls?

 

[JosiahLee]

Seems like clutching at straws to defend Kyler to me. Seems like Petzing was able to take the handcuffs off the offense with a prototypical QB versus the Kyler ish show.

I just want them to be a winning franchise again, regardless of who the QB is. And I do want JB to get another start to see if he can keep it up. If he plays well again that kind of pressure is good for K1. My real take is QB isn't the issue on this team, its coaching. Only 6 teams scored more than 27 points on Sunday...That should have been enough for a win, but not for this coaching staff.