Ty Simpson declares for the 2026 NFL draft

[dreamcastrocks]

People are free to believe this but that’s never been the story from Hardy Drive and not even Kyle Odegaard believes it.

Sure, but I still don't understand this line of thinking at all. Almost all teams take the input of their head coach, even if they aren't making the final decision. We all know the Cards are inept. Do you think that they are so inept that they would be probably the only team in the league that doesn't take their HC's input on roster decisions? Do you think that LaFleur won't have any say?

Some of your posts puzzle me, your take on this has me a bit shell shocked.

 

[kerouac9]

Sure, but I still don't understand this line of thinking at all. Almost all teams take the input of their head coach, even if they aren't making the final decision. We all know the Cards are inept. Do you think that they are so inept that they would be probably the only team in the league that doesn't take their HC's input on roster decisions? Do you think that LaFleur won't have any say?

Some of your posts puzzle me, your take on this has me a bit shell shocked.

I don’t expect 3rd choice HC to have much input for 3rd choice GM. He’s not super-qualified to make personnel decisions; he doesn’t have a long record of success outside of riding Shanahan and McVay coattails.

The story from the start was that Kliff stayed out of the Murray evaluation process. Keim was performing his due diligence on Murray and fell in love.

Kliff was a failed college coach with no NFL experience; why would Keim listen to him at all?

 

[Harry]

Comparing Ty Simpson to Fernando Mendoza convinced me he'll be drafted higher than people think

Simpson isn't a better prospect than Mendoza, but the Alabama QB is in a similar tier from a traits standpoint.

www.cbssports.com

 

[Chopper0080]

I agree on not being tough on Murray. I totally disagree on the rest. I characterized Murray’s play as Football PTSD. He literally didn’t know how to protect himself except that little fishhook escape. The playoff wild throw and the more recent grounding penalty for a throw with his back to the line showed how panicked he was. He didn’t enter the league scared; he developed that. Certainly he need much tougher coaching on the mechanics, but bad mechanics didn’t cause him to be intimidated. He’s needed to be confident in a secure pocket, but he rarely had that. Kingsbury wildly overestimated Murray’s escapability skills. The result was Murray was constantly crushed.

Developing pocket mechanics and understanding where your outlets are or when to throw the ball away are responsibilities that are equally on the player as much as the coaches. How a player deals with pressure, aka panicking, is a personality trait. There isn't a coach in the league that can keep a QB from getting hit. If Kyler didn't display personal resiliency, that's also kinda on him. Sam Darnold had something similar and had to learn to deal with it. Could the Cardinals have had a better line? Sure, but that isn't on coaching.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don’t expect 3rd choice HC to have much input for 3rd choice GM. He’s not super-qualified to make personnel decisions; he doesn’t have a long record of success outside of riding Shanahan and McVay coattails.

The story from the start was that Kliff stayed out of the Murray evaluation process. Keim was performing his due diligence on Murray and fell in love.

Kliff was a failed college coach with no NFL experience; why would Keim listen to him at all?

I agree outside of the likely, "hey what do you think of this player?" and "Can he run your offense?".

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I don’t expect 3rd choice HC to have much input for 3rd choice GM.

Even if what you say was true, why could Keim care that he is a 3rd choice GM? He has the job, why wouldn't he try his best?

He’s not super-qualified to make personnel decisions; he doesn’t have a long record of success outside of riding Shanahan and McVay coattails.

A lot of HC's aren't, but they still have input.

The story from the start was that Kliff stayed out of the Murray evaluation process. Keim was performing his due diligence on Murray and fell in love.

Sources?

Kliff was a failed college coach with no NFL experience; why would Keim listen to him at all?

Why would he hire him then? Come on.

 

[kerouac9]

Even if what you say was true, why could Keim care that he is a 3rd choice GM? He has the job, why wouldn't he try his best?

A lot of HC's aren't, but they still have input.

Sources?

Why would he hire him then? Come on.

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

Cards GM Keim on quarterback Murray: 'Wow'

Arizona general manager Steve Keim said he remembers the moment he decided the Cardinals would make former Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray the first pick of the 2019 NFL Draft. "When I closed my eyes and I visualized Kyler Murray running around State Farm Stadium in red and white, for...

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But Keim and Kingsbury both said the coach didn't insist on the selection. "The thing I respect the most about Kliff is he never once interrupted the process," Keim said, with Kingsbury sitting at the table with him and King. "He never once came down and put his fist on the table and said, ‘I want Kyler Murray. I have to have him.' I knew that he loved him as a player, but he allowed the process to take care of itself. To me, that was the only way we were going to get it right."

Honestly, I think you’re misunderstanding that being a head coach and being a personnel leader are separate jobs that require full-time dedication. If you want to declare victory if the head coach is aware of how picks are ranked heading into draft day, more power to you.

But the reality is that third-choice HC has a lot of work to do that isn’t watching cutups of 3rd round draft prospects.

 

[Chopper0080]

Even if what you say was true, why could Keim care that he is a 3rd choice GM? He has the job, why wouldn't he try his best?

A lot of HC's aren't, but they still have input.

Sources?

Why would he hire him then? Come on.

It's not uncommon for higher levels of management to communicate with lower levels to hear their thoughts on potential decisions but make decisions that go against them. The point is that Kliff was not likely the driving factor in the decision to draft Kyler Murray.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

Cards GM Keim on quarterback Murray: 'Wow'

Arizona general manager Steve Keim said he remembers the moment he decided the Cardinals would make former Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray the first pick of the 2019 NFL Draft. "When I closed my eyes and I visualized Kyler Murray running around State Farm Stadium in red and white, for...

sports.yahoo.com

Honestly, I think you’re misunderstanding that being a head coach and being a personnel leader are separate jobs that require full-time dedication. If you want to declare victory if the head coach is aware of how picks are ranked heading into draft day, more power to you.

But the reality is that third-choice HC has a lot of work to do that isn’t watching cutups of 3rd round draft prospects.

I never once claimed that he had full autonomy on the pick. I only believed he had input. You're the one that said he had 0 input without any proof.

Who's the one being obtuse?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

It's not uncommon for higher levels of management to communicate with lower levels to hear their thoughts on potential decisions but make decisions that go against them. The point is that Kliff was not likely the driving factor in the decision to draft Kyler Murray.

I never claimed he was. K9 was the one that said he had zero input. If what you are saying happened, (which it almost certainly did) then he had some level of input. Even if it was small.

 

[kerouac9]

I never once claimed that he had full autonomy on the pick. I only believed he had input. You're the one that said he had 0 input without any proof.

Who's the one being obtuse?

You must be very bored indeed to be arguing the finer points of control/authority/influence/input. I don’t have time for it.

 

[Adrian]

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[dreamcastrocks]

You must be very bored indeed to be arguing the finer points of control/authority/influence/input. I don’t have time for it.

Bored enough to call out crazy claims I guess.

 

[kerouac9]

I personally think it is wild to say that he didn't have any influence in the KM pick. He was basically hand picked by him from the beginning.

I mean, I brought actual evidence contradicting this but keep sniping my man.

 

[oaken1]

there is truth...then there is what will be put out in the press.

if the truth fairy would answer a single situation....I would bet a weeks pay to a stale donut that Keim and Kliff discussed drafting Kyler before Kliff ever even signed his contract. It was, in Keims mind, a package deal.....
a coach known as a guru for a vaunted college offense....and the QB who played that offense better than anyone else...and keim with the first pick...it was sympatico.

does that mean they didnt go through the evaluation process?? No...of course you hedge your bets...trust but verify and all that.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I mean, I brought actual evidence contradicting this but keep sniping my man.

There is ZERO, and I mean zero evidence in that article that you claimed that showed that Kliff had no input in the process. It only shows that Keim fell in love with Kyler.

You're making it easy to prove you wrong, with your own supposed evidence.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

There is ZERO, and I mean zero evidence in that article that you claimed that showed that Kliff had no input in the process. It only shows that Keim fell in love with Kyler.

You're making it easy to prove you wrong, with your own supposed evidence.

How many followers do you have? That makes you legit.

 

[kerouac9]

There is ZERO, and I mean zero evidence in that article that you claimed that showed that Kliff had no input in the process. It only shows that Keim fell in love with Kyler.

You're making it easy to prove you wrong, with your own supposed evidence.

Bro you said the Kliff “handpicked” Kyler.

It’s honestly embarrassing how you can’t just fess us when you’re wrong and do this every time.

 

[Phrazbit]

Dan Orlovsky likes Simpson over Mendoza. While I don’t completely agree, it’s an interesting take.
Yes it’s a gamble but should the Cardinals take him at #3?

ESPN analyst says Ty Simpson’s tape tops the only QB ranked above him in NFL Draft

Ty Simpson heads into this week's NFL Combine as the consensus No. 2 quarterback in the 2026 draft class. That's a spot that he will be desperately trying to h

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Wait so who gets BOP’s weed for a week?

 

[Phrazbit]

Wait so who gets BOP’s weed for a week?

His dispensary won't sweat it.

By the time Ty Simpson is entering his 5th season he will probably be on his 3rd team.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

How many followers do you have? That makes you legit.

At least one on this board. We have been married 15 years, lol.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

It’s honestly embarrassing how you can’t just fess us when you’re wrong and do this every time.

Lol okay. Says the guy that said Kliff had zero input.

He's too stupid to make any sort of roster decisions and the Cards are the only team stupid enough to act this way. Normally that last sentence is accurate, but we both know that isn't true. You'll probably just insert a laugh emoji and walk away.

 

[kerouac9]

Lol okay. Says the guy that said Kliff had zero input.

He's too stupid to make any sort of roster decisions and the Cards are the only team stupid enough to act this way. Normally that last sentence is accurate, but we both know that isn't true. You'll probably just insert a laugh emoji and walk away.

Quote me on that claim. Go ahead.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Quote me on that claim. Go ahead.

I'm 100% certain you have insider knowledge with all of the X followers you have...