Ty Simpson declares for the 2026 NFL draft

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The ONLY reason anybody would draft Simpson in the top 3 is because he is a QB. Period. It's the kind of thinking that gets guys like Trey Lance, Anthony Richardson, and Zach Wilson to turn into absurd reaches.
Amen. Ty Simpson is pure projection and pure reach. There's a tiny chance it works out, but the odds are greatly against it. History tells us so.
 

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Sure, if there's a large sample size of, what, 15? Especially the big games when a QB has very few starts? Yeah, then it makes a lot more sense.
15 is a lot more than the 2 & 3 nonsense he was saying.
 

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Why are many putting faith in ML and saying if he's his guy, then take him at 3? Based on what track record? If ML says to take him at 3, then he should have no say in the scouting. Isn't that Monti's job anyway? By most scouts, Simpson is a fringe 1st round guy, likely 2nd or 3rd if this were a normal QB draft. Taking him at 3 would be horrendous.
Because you kinda have to if you are drafting for an offensive HC.
 
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That's what got us KK and Murray.
We hired KK becuase of Kyler, not the other way around. That was a mistake. Drafting a player becuase of your coach is how is should be done.

There were 3 first round QBs that year. One has passed away, one is on his second team and while looking good now, is coming off his second major knee injury. Its crazy how bad some QB classes end up being that Daniel Jones appears to be the long term best of the bunch.
 

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That's what got us KK and Murray.
Yup. It doesn't mean that it is correct, but it should indicate what they were looking for. In hindsight, Kliff and Kyle were not a good pairing. It seemed Kliff and Jayden Daniels might have been a better, but the sample size is too small.

Where I land with an offensive coach being brought in MLF is that the reason this guy was hired is because of his ability to execute an offense and lead an organization. I have to trust who he decides he want to roll with as his QB because, IMO, he is the expert in the room. If I don't, then I probably am not invested in him as a HC.

It's like with Monti. When he tampered to get Gannon, it raised an eyebrow. The moment he decided to tank his initial season, I became skeptical. Passing on Will Anderson was another question mark. I highlighted on this board that I thought Monti's direction had a narrow path to be successful. I don't say this to try and say Monti suck, it is just how I think some of these hires have to be evaluated.

With MLF...I was initially slightly positive on the hire. I thought he did well in his press conference. I am skeptical of him bringing back Rallis. If MLF decides that Ty Simpson is the guy at 3...I will be a little skeptical but I will see how it goes knowing if it doesn't workout, MLF is fired in 3 years max.
 

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Why are many putting faith in ML and saying if he's his guy, then take him at 3? Based on what track record? If ML says to take him at 3, then he should have no say in the scouting. Isn't that Monti's job anyway? By most scouts, Simpson is a fringe 1st round guy, likely 2nd or 3rd if this were a normal QB draft. Taking him at 3 would be horrendous.
Armchair scouting right now is all that's firmly placing Ty Simpson that late in the draft. Remember, Patrick Mahomes was considered someone who should go later in the draft, but teams obviously fell in love with him, and the Chiefs moved into the top 10.

At QB, the scarcity of the position is going to move this guy up.

As was mentioned earlier, we'll be kicking ourselves if the Rams go ahead and take Simpson at 13, and he kills us for the next 15 years because we thought he was "worth less." (Admittedly, sitting behind Stafford and throwing to Puka are big components of how good he could be.)

Again, I'm not endorsing it at this point in the process, but if he comes out and kills the Combine and Pro Day, he could easily skyrocket.

I'd love to be able to move back a little and get him if he's the guy, but I don't see anyone who'll want to move up, and at that point, we might be getting too cute and the Rams could jump in front of us for him.
 

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We hired KK becuase of Kyler, not the other way around. That was a mistake. Drafting a player becuase of your coach is how is should be done.

There were 3 first round QBs that year. One has passed away, one is on his second team and while looking good now, is coming off his second major knee injury. Its crazy how bad some QB classes end up being that Daniel Jones appears to be the long term best of the bunch.
No way, Kyler wasn't considered the top overall prospect until Kingsbury's hire, and people digging up the footage of him saying he would take him first overall while they were in the offseason.

Kyler might not have been here if we hired someone who wasn't Kliff. KK had a man-crush on him for years.
 

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If you put Simpson on Indiana with that dominant offensive line and running game, he would have been absolutely special. Yes Simpson struggled at the end of the season, but this was the worst Alabama Offensive Line/Running Game in maybe the last 50 years. Go watch the Georgia game and see Simpson just destroy the Georgia defense. There is a lot to work with.
DISAGREE.

If Ty Simpson is so talented...why did he spend three entire seasons at Bama sitting behind lousy quarterbacks??
Especially when the portal is available??
then not git gud until he was basically 23 years old already,...when most players are in the NFL by 21?
with the portal and the huge demand for Quarterbacks,...somebody would have offered him a sweet NIL deal to move to their school if he had shown any special traits the few times he got on the field.
 

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No way, Kyler wasn't considered the top overall prospect until Kingsbury's hire, and people digging up the footage of him saying he would take him first overall while they were in the offseason.

Kyler might not have been here if we hired someone who wasn't Kliff. KK had a man-crush on him for years.

Yes, the hiring of Kliff Kingsbury as head coach of the Arizona Cardinals in January 2019 was widely interpreted as a strong indicator—and eventually a precursor—that the team was going to draft Kyler Murray with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft.

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Why are many putting faith in ML and saying if he's his guy, then take him at 3? Based on what track record? If ML says to take him at 3, then he should have no say in the scouting. Isn't that Monti's job anyway? By most scouts, Simpson is a fringe 1st round guy, likely 2nd or 3rd if this were a normal QB draft. Taking him at 3 would be horrendous.
Because ML has a little more insight than us? And knows a little more about the type of QB he wants then us? Maybe MO and ML and the scouts really believe Simpson could develop into a really good QB. And I'm going to pretend I know more than them? Don't think so
 

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I've watched a fair amount of this video, but almost every single person here is talking about "letting Kliff pick his guy," which means Kliff came first... and I can't find the quote you're supplying.

All of the early draft stock for Kyler (including Google's AI overview) shows: "Kyler Murray’s 2019 NFL draft stock skyrocketed from a potential mid-round pick to the #1 overall selection by the Arizona Cardinals, driven by his 2018 Heisman-winning season at Oklahoma."

Kyler was never a consensus guy the Cardinals already wanted and we picked Kliff to pair with him, we picked Kliff first and then started talking our way into a guy he'd had a crush on and failed to recruit twice.
 

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Because ML has a little more insight than us? And knows a little more about the type of QB he wants then us? Maybe MO and ML and the scouts really believe Simpson could develop into a really good QB. And I'm going to pretend I know more than them? Don't think so
I'll pretend I know better than Monti; my track record has been better than his during his tenure :)
 

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As was mentioned earlier, we'll be kicking ourselves if the Rams go ahead and take Simpson at 13, and he kills us for the next 15 years because we thought he was "worth less." (Admittedly, sitting behind Stafford and throwing to Puka are big components of how good he could be.)
Picking a guy at a spot that might be considered a "reach" is a gamble. One worth taking most of the time, IMO. You like a guy, you go get him. But Its still a gamble.

Picking a guy, because youre wringing your hands over the thought that your rival MIGHT take him, and then he MAY turn into something that haunts you for years to come is a WILD way to run an FO in my opinion.
 

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Picking a guy at a spot that might be considered a "reach" is a gamble. One worth taking most of the time, IMO. You like a guy, you go get him. But Its still a gamble.

Picking a guy, because youre wringing your hands over the thought that your rival MIGHT take him, and then he MAY turn into something that haunts you for years to come is a WILD way to run an FO in my opinion.
If the Rams truly believe hes the guy to replace thier current HOF QB at 13, then taking him at 3 is not that much of a gamble.
 

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If the Rams truly believe hes the guy to replace thier current HOF QB at 13, then taking him at 3 is not that much of a gamble.
Disingenuous post. We can't say what the Rams believe, truly or otherwise, and we certainly can't get into Monti's mind. Well, beyond trade down and hoard cap space thoughts bouncing around.
 

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Disingenuous post. We can't say what the Rams believe, truly or otherwise, and we certainly can't get into Monti's mind. Well, beyond trade down and hoard cap space thoughts bouncing around.

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Where did I pretend to say any of this is a fact? Teams know what others teams are thinking and doing, especially the former OC of said team, that was why I said "IF". We get it, you don't like Simpson, you have made that clear multiple times. I have no opinion on his as I have not watched enough of him, but I trust ML to make a call on who he wants to be his QB. Not that is matter anyways, sounds like he are going to pay too much for this brothers leftovers.
 

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There shouldn't be a comparison of the Rams taking Simpson versus the Cards taking Simpson. The Rams are a SB caliber team with the league MVP at QB. They can gamble on a guy who might not work out. The Cards cannot. Plus, Simpson can sit for 2 years behind Stafford to get ready. The first bad half for Brissett, the pressure will be on to get Simpson under center.
 

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Why are many putting faith in ML and saying if he's his guy, then take him at 3? Based on what track record? If ML says to take him at 3, then he should have no say in the scouting. Isn't that Monti's job anyway? By most scouts, Simpson is a fringe 1st round guy, likely 2nd or 3rd if this were a normal QB draft. Taking him at 3 would be horrendous.
Apparently he had a significant back injury against South Carolina, plus gastritis from taking too many painkillers, and that is exactly when he started playing poorly.

I've been against taking Simpson all year, but if the decline in play was due to injury it makes taking him high more palatable imo.
 
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In 2022 Stafford played 9 games while pretty injured and the Rams went 5-12. Their backups were Baker Mayfield and John Wolford. The next year, Stafford miss a few games and they sneaked into the playoffs and lost. They cannot afford to lose the gamble either. Most teams cannot. The Vikings gambled by letting Sam walk and they missed the playoffs while Sam won a SB. QBs matter and if the Rams want him, then I want him, it is that simple.
 

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I'm on the "if MLF" likes him train. I really feel we need to get as much OL and pass rush help as possible but if there is a guy the team feels can be the QB long term, just take the leap of faith! It appears several teams in the mid rounds would take a flyer on him for whatever reasons. So several teams think he would be a first round choice.

I guess we'll see the plan at QB when FA starts. Are we trading or cutting Kyler? Are we going to sign Willis? Are we trading for one of the other QBs? If we land a QB prior to the draft, I am hoping we get one of the best available players at their position (most are also of need for us). Here is a list of players: Downs (S), Styles (LB), Reese (Edge), Tate (WR), Bain (Edge), Bailey (EDGE), Tyson (WR), Fano (OL), Lomu (OL), Mauigoa (OL), Fano (OL), and Love (RB) would be options at #3. Could even trade down a few spots and still get a quality player in the list.

In the 2nd, there are still players of need that could be available: Mesidor (Edge), Hunter (DT), McDonald (DT), Iheanachor (OT), Freeling (OL), Miller (OL), Proctor (OL).

There are no sure things (witnessed by MHJ and others).
 

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Where did I pretend to say any of this is a fact? Teams know what others teams are thinking and doing, especially the former OC of said team, that was why I said "IF". We get it, you don't like Simpson, you have made that clear multiple times. I have no opinion on his as I have not watched enough of him, but I trust ML to make a call on who he wants to be his QB. Not that is matter anyways, sounds like he are going to pay too much for this brothers leftovers.
I think we get Willis or Simpson ……just a gut feeling
 

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Picking a guy at a spot that might be considered a "reach" is a gamble. One worth taking most of the time, IMO. You like a guy, you go get him. But Its still a gamble.

Picking a guy, because youre wringing your hands over the thought that your rival MIGHT take him, and then he MAY turn into something that haunts you for years to come is a WILD way to run an FO in my opinion.
Right??

The exact same guys that hated on JG for coaching scared...are now encouraging Monti to GM scared.

We should probably draft all the DT'S too so the Rams don't get another Aaron Donald
 
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