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Maybe, but the intention is to keep clubs out of bankruptcy/administration, especially if they spend like crazy to get to/stay in the Prem and fall out.

It's a bad look if 15% of your teams are being managed by creditors.
I think a blended approach could work like what we have in sports here, it just may ramp up higher given the money in cross league competitions.

It's not like an MLB or NBA team is competing for talent or can go compete in a big money tournament if they have a good season

There are also fewer financial implications to having a rebuild

A structure that allows the top clubs to do what they do, with a tax penalty that can help backstop

Would be tricky to work out, especially with pro/reg, etc.

Anyone know if aside from media, etc if there is any real revenue sharing? I think conceptually it would be a tough sell
 

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I think a blended approach could work like what we have in sports here, it just may ramp up higher given the money in cross league competitions.

It's not like an MLB or NBA team is competing for talent or can go compete in a big money tournament if they have a good season

There are also fewer financial implications to having a rebuild

A structure that allows the top clubs to do what they do, with a tax penalty that can help backstop

Would be tricky to work out, especially with pro/reg, etc.

Anyone know if aside from media, etc if there is any real revenue sharing? I think conceptually it would be a tough sell
I think it’s a butterfly-wings problem. I don’t need Luton to compete with Man City, and Leicester just had a magical run not long ago showing it’s possible.

It’s crazy that the places where true capitalism is possible in sport is socialist Europe. I don’t have a big problem with the structure as long as teams aren’t leveraging themselves out of existence
 
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Maybe, but the intention is to keep clubs out of bankruptcy/administration, especially if they spend like crazy to get to/stay in the Prem and fall out.

It's a bad look if 15% of your teams are being managed by creditors.
Except it serves as a de facto way for the septic six to remain atop the heap and disallow any other teams to catch up. Newcastle isn't going to be managed by creditors--ever, now--and had an injury ravaged squad, but couldn't spend a dime in the winter window because, uh...financial fair play?

Say someone big takes over Fulham and money is no object. They may be able to compete in...10 years or so? Newcastle had an advantage as a bigger club and an old Adidas favorite. Teams like Fulham wouldn't have that. They'd be prevented from seriously competing...to protect themselves? Baloney.

It's a broken system and needs changed for sure.
 

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I think it’s a butterfly-wings problem. I don’t need Luton to compete with Man City, and Leicester just had a magical run not long ago showing it’s possible.

It’s crazy that the places where true capitalism is possible in sport is socialist Europe. I don’t have a big problem with the structure as long as teams aren’t leveraging themselves out of existence
Is it cold in Man City this time of year?
 

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Except it serves as a de facto way for the septic six to remain atop the heap and disallow any other teams to catch up. Newcastle isn't going to be managed by creditors--ever, now--and had an injury ravaged squad, but couldn't spend a dime in the winter window because, uh...financial fair play?

Say someone big takes over Fulham and money is no object. They may be able to compete in...10 years or so? Newcastle had an advantage as a bigger club and an old Adidas favorite. Teams like Fulham wouldn't have that. They'd be prevented from seriously competing...to protect themselves? Baloney.

It's a broken system and needs changed for sure.
Is this where I make a joke about Newcastle not having to worry about “stars leaving?”

Hahah lol haha
 
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Is this where I make a joke about Newcastle not having to worry about “stars leaving?”

Hahah lol haha
Ha! You don't have to worry about that--it's not happening. Not unless one of them has their head turned. The FFP rules are changing, and anyway, FFP reset this year. Expect Newcastle to spend, baby, spend this summer.
 

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Ha! You don't have to worry about that--it's not happening. Not unless one of them has their head turned. The FFP rules are changing, and anyway, FFP reset this year. Expect Newcastle to spend, baby, spend this summer.
Works so well at Chelsea and Man U....

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Also, what ever happened to Sunderland? haha
 
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Works so well at Chelsea and Man U....

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Also, what ever happened to Sunderland? haha
You misspelled Chelski.

And Sunderland...well, their under 21 side had 3 very senior players in it and our under 21 side still beat the pants off them, so I guess it's about business as usual at the Stadium of Shyte.
 

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Are we really sure that Newcastle is going to spend? Seems like they are are content to keeping their powder dry and building from within.
 
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So flipping glad we re-signed Emil Krafth. That's a real world-class player there providing quality depth. Definitely the kind of player you want filling out your squad when you're chasing Europe and trophies.




Oh, as if there was any doubt: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
 
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Bang up job motivating the side to play against Fulham today there, Howe. Super coaching, bro. You've totally not shown any weaknesses as a coach this season. No, none!




And, yeah, obviously: :sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
 
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Weird game. A lot better 2nd half but they'd have to be, wouldn't they? Should have been down a couple by halftime, then the refs blatantly stole a goal, before Bruno's glorious winner. Bruno, Bruno, Bruno! Still in the European race, no thanks to Howe's awful "inspiration" opening the game and the players taking a dump on the field. Just be glad Fulham couldn't find the back of the net if they had Messi on their team lol

And WTF Lewis Hall? You've had all year to gain your fitness and you can't finish a full 90 minutes, like, ever now? The senior players were all telling him to get up, get up, get on with it, and he had to be subbed? And Newcastle paid 30 million for him? Sad.
 

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How will these three clubs finish in the table:

Chelsea
West Ham
Newcastle
 

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I'm a Chelsea fan and they just have too many soft spots. They could jump i'm front of that group, but drawing against Blades and a 10 man Burnley shows that they simply won't
 
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Beating Spurs today would be a big statement, and sadly, they've put themselves in a position where they pretty much need all 3 points here. Unfortunately, the back four will comprise Murphy, Krafth, Schar, and Burn in some form. That's not just not good; that's abysmal. Schar, okay, and Burn has been okay at CB, but my gut says Krafth goes in the middle and Burn out wide. Not good. Hall and Livramento are basically all they have on the bench, too. Full credit to Howe if he can get the lads to get the W here.
 
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