THE Newcastle United FC thread

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    That was a pen for Kane. That wasn't dirty, it was a clear foul. Not sure how you can say it wasn't a foul?

    I'm glad Newcastle won, but that should have been a pen.
     
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    Well, former head of officiating Gallagher nailed it on the head--why is Kane not trying to keep the ball, but rather bundling over top of Lascelles? You know, running into the fallen player rather than the player running into him? Because he's Harry Kane, who knows he can buy a penalty. EFF Harry "I'm going to red card injure your players and not even get a yellow" effing Kane (past incident). VAR is here, son, and you don't get cheap-o penalties any longer.

    Sorry for the strong response, but Spurs and Kane get sooo much handed to them, so it's nice to see it not happen for once. And it's so nice to see that Newcastle didn't get ref-screwed for once.

    The lack of sportsmanship comments came from not putting the ball out, though, not from the penalty shout.

    The incident I quoted happened two years ago when Kane scissors kicked Lejune from behind and put him out for 3 months in an incident that would have given Shelvey a 5-match ban. Golden boy Kane? Just a foul, not even a yellow.
     
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    Why do you have to keep the ball when you are tackled from behind? (albeit from a slip) If that happened anywhere else on the pitch it is a foul, ergo pen. People go down in the middle of the pitch, stop going after the ball etc and the whistle is blown. We see it practically every game.

    I don't mind the strong response. I am just looking at it as a neutral. I was happy to see T'ham lose.

    I don't think that VAR should have overturned it either; it wasn't a clear and obvious mistake by the ref. I just think the referee got it wrong.
     
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    It's possible. It's a borderline one, no doubt about it. What I mean is, when a player chooses to go down rather than maintain possession, it's going to hurt their chances of getting the penalty. Plus, the former head of officiating was good with the call. Either way, Kane is whining, Spurs lost, and Newcastle got the win, so I'm happy.

    And a correction: Kane did get a yellow for the horror tackle on Lejeuene. But, man, that was a straight red, nasty foul:

     
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    That's definitely yellow plus.
     
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    Well, that fracking figures. VAR in the Premiership, so Newcastle can't get screwed by the refs any longer? Great! They'll just screw the Mags over in the league cup! Choudhary (sp?) should have seen red, clearly, and Newcastle, who leveled anyway at even strength, would have beaten 10-man Leicester. Ugh. If they're not screwed one way, they're screwed another. Because, after taking out our player and not losing theirs, it went to penalties, and those are never kind to the Mags.

    But, hey, Bruce is prioritizing the cups lol
     
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    Eh, should have been 3, but I guess I'll take the point. About to get crushed by Liverfool in the next game.

    It's 3 weeks away, gmabel830--next week is the international break ;)
     
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    definitely was a penalty in my eyes because the defender took him down regardless. and I don't think VAR would or should have changed anything because the ref has to make and take ownership of a 50/50 call like that. when you watch it on reply it was tactical the way lascalles fell into kane. just my opinion. I think kane, son, and deli all have a reputation for diving(as do other star players in the Prem). and I think there have actually been situations where they have gone down too easy and it costs them when they get a real penalty. certainly I've seen penalties given for less...
     
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    Not tactical at all. It turns out that's the moment Lascelles's calf went.
     
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    You win some, you win some. You definitely were lucky to get a point there. The ball clearly came off of his hand, which should have been a disallowed goal. Not sure how VAR didn't see it.
     
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    I howl bloody murder if they call that after not awarding a clear penalty earlier in the game. Kicking someone in the box is okay, then that's okay. I think they said VAR only checked it for offside, though (the one you're mentioning). Kind of a wash, IMO.

    I will say, VAR has gone Newcastle's way so far. I'm so used to them getting screwed, but no. Not thus far.
     
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    Except that according to the new rule, making contact with your arm, accidental or not is an automatic no goal. It is cut and dry. The rest are subjective.

    Although I do agree with you, that should have been a pen too.
     
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    Yeah, that's true. I don't think I agree with it--not because of my team's game--but because it's easy to have a ball kicked directly off your arm with nothing you can do about it.
     

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