The Mandatory Minicamp thread. 06/11/19-06/13/19

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  1. kerouac9

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    Let me check their record.

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    Yes, the 2018 Arizona Cardinals were a 3-13 team.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    You are what your record states.

    The talent on this team wasnt capable of making up for the atrocious coaching.

    I think with good coaching, they would have been a middling team though.
     
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    I’d be down with signing James Williams. Was really high on him coming out of Wazzu & he would be a MENACE in the passing game.
     
  4. kerouac9

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    With exceptional coaching and more talent, a similar team was 8-8 the year before.

    I think like Bill O’Brien would have had this team at 6-10. That’s still twice as many wins, but I think if we go 6-10 this year we’ll feel bad despite ourselves.
     
  5. PACardsFan

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    It'll depend on how we get to 6-10. Last year we had multiple games when our offense barely crossed midfield & our D gave up 200 yards on the ground. If we're exciting & the ball just doesn't bounce our way, then almost anything will surpass last year's debacle.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    6-10 is around my expectations, but I want an early Whisenhunt feeling, not a Vince Tobin feeling.
     
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    I read the move as feeling Amerson was a step slow in functional speed and they kept him on board as mainly an experiencd insurance policy.

    Implication is that Cards feel they have enough speed and depth at the position to let go of Amerson earlier/& not later.
     
  8. kerouac9

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    Whisenhunt went 8-8 his first season here. That includes going 5-6 in a remarkable 11 games decided by 7 points or fewer.

    If the offense improves from "historically awful" to "below average", it's difficult to see this team not being close to .500. If you believe our defense also underperformed (They were average by DVOA) and could bounce back, there are few excuses for this team not being 7-9. But 6-10 is the only reasonable minimum for performance this year.
     
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    Krangthebrain Captain of Team Murray

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    6-10 is my minimum expectation.

    I think if the offense is average and the defense is above average, that's good for another two wins, 8-8.

    The extreme is that the offense is better than average immediately, and that probably chalks up to 10-6.
     
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    I have no expectations this year.

    Too many unknowns heading into the season and I'm sure we won't see much in the preseason. So game one is going to be the first time we actually see this new offense in play.
     
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    I am thinking 7-9, because that 8-8 stuff for this team after last season means that Kingsbury will be nails at his first time coaching as a pro and Gonzales will be aces placekicking. There is enough of the college game sprinkled now that I do not think a guy like Murray is going to completely take the rest of the league off guard but I could be wrong
     
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    David Boston pretty much deflated any interest I have of a guy in the weight room making me optimistic about winning lol
     
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    I got scared at the opening Wilks presser when he turned to Bidwill and Keim and said something like "You made the right choice" or something like that.

    Him, McCoy and then Bradford was a punt on 3rd down IMO.
     
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    Yeah, I mean, I wan't on board with the hurdle in the locker room or the bricks at training camp. Then I went to the Red and White practice and that looked pretty bad. People didn't want to listen to me, though.
     

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