Suns Off Season Changes for 2025-26

[Mainstreet]

Chris Paul is expected to sign with the Lakers per report.

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[leclerc]

How was the chemistry between CP3 and Ayton? I will try to catch some Hell A games next year, just for the heck of it.

 

[BirdGangThing]

Chris Paul is expected to sign with the Lakers per report.

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cp3 - luka - lebron on the court at the same time - they'll need a lot of mops

 

[Raindog]

cp3 - luka - lebron on the court at the same time - they'll need a lot of mops

Prediction: The 2025-2026 Lakers are going to end up being the 2024-2025 Suns.

 

[Folster]

Chris Paul is expected to sign with the Lakers per report.

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That's a fake account.

 

[swagron]

That's a fake account.

The real one is not reliable and doesn’t have real information either. Want no part of dirty Chris Paul.

 

[Mainstreet]

That's a fake account.

It's getting harder and harder to tell.

 

[Ronin]

Phoenix Suns waive 2-way player part of NBA's historic 7-team Kevin Durant trade

Kevin Durant trade became official Sunday, July 6.

www.azcentral.com

 

[Folster]

I stumbled upon the perfect trade to balance out our roster while listening to the Locked on Suns Podcast. Credit to Brendon Kleen and Ben Garcia.

Once the Suns get under the 2nd apron and can aggregate salaries, we trade Allen and O'Neale to Utah for John Collins.

Collins will be only 28 when the season starts and averaged 19/8 with a block last season, albeit playing only 40 games. He shot just under 40% from 3 on 3.7 attempts per game. He's the perfect stretch 4 who can still rebound. To top it off, he's expiring so we turn Allen and O'Neale into an expiring contract.

Ainge has been trying to trade Collins for a while, and the Suns were reportedly going to acquire him before Ishbia came in and pulled the trigger on Durant. The big question is, why does Utah do it? Why do they take on the years of future salary owed Allen and O'Neale? You gotta hope Ainge really loves Allen or he thinks he can spin them off in season to contenders for more picks.

With Allen and O'Neale gone, the roster becomes much more balanced. Collins slots in at PF and gives Fleming a year to develop. The roster is completely overhauled around Book with only Gillespie, Dunn, Oso, and Richards returning. Trade Richards for a back-up point guard or sign CP3 and we are cooking.

1. Booker, (Paul), Gillespie
2. Green, Brea
3. Brooks, Dunn
4. Collins, Fleming
5. Williams, Maluach, Richards, Oso

 

[Hoop Head]

I dig it. I think Utah might do it to help sell some tickets as Grayson would become a fan favorite in Utah and Royce has a history there. Ainge could hang onto them and flip them later for more than he'd get for Collins.

 

[Phrazbit]

I dig it. I think Utah might do it to help sell some tickets as Grayson would become a fan favorite in Utah and Royce has a history there. Ainge could hang onto them and flip them later for more than he'd get for Collins.

Competitively, I think this trade makes us worse, because I don't like Collins, but I also think Grayson and Royce are on bad, longer contracts, so I dig that part because next year is probably a disaster regardless.

That said... ain't no one buying an NBA ticket because Grayson Allen or Royce plays for the club... absolutely no one. Hardly notable 8-9th man type role players, I bet a large part of NBA fans, even the hard core ones, hardly know a thing about Royce O'Neale and Allen is only known because he used to deliver a lot of cheap shots. No chance that a team looks at either of those players and says to themselves "oh yeah, that will get the fans fired up!".

I mean, those dudes PLAYED for us and we'd be glad to dump them for peanuts.

 

[Superbone]

Grayson also has a history in Utah.

 

[Phrazbit]

Grayson also has a history in Utah.

Would you go to a Suns game because we got TJ Warren back?

 

[Hoop Head]

Would you go to a Suns game because we got TJ Warren back?

We're talking about an average white NBA player in Utah. Grayson will be hailed as the best thing since caffeine free Pepsi.

I'm not one of those guys who overhypes Grayson either. I wasn't a fan of his extension as he was overpaid but he does have value. Pair him with Markkennen and I think he could regain some of what got him paid.

I like Collins as a rental, of sorts. He's a legit 6'10" big who can stretch the floor while also not being afraid of contact inside. I fear we might overpay him after a decent year here but that would give us an intriguing frontcourt. As is constructed we lack size, which Collins brings.


Royce is average and undersized 3&D wing. He isnt particularly great but you know what he brings every night. He'll always play above average defense and knock down open looks. He's overpaid but not at the same amount Allen is as he brings more to the table.

 

[Phrazbit]

We're talking about an average white NBA player in Utah. Grayson will be hailed as the best thing since caffeine free Pepsi.

I'm not one of those guys who overhypes Grayson either. I wasn't a fan of his extension as he was overpaid but he does have value. Pair him with Markkennen and I think he could regain some of what got him paid.

I like Collins as a rental, of sorts. He's a legit 6'10" big who can stretch the floor while also not being afraid of contact inside. I fear we might overpay him after a decent year here but that would give us an intriguing frontcourt. As is constructed we lack size, which Collins brings.


Royce is average and undersized 3&D wing. He isnt particularly great but you know what he brings every night. He'll always play above average defense and knock down open looks. He's overpaid but not at the same amount Allen is as he brings more to the table.

I’m not doubting that the jazz are partial to white players, but I also don’t think that he will impact their season ticket sales in any meaningful way whatsoever, especially not in a way that offsets his stupid salary that we paid him.

He’s just a guy, an especially useless guy to a team with no hope for meaningful basketball in the near future.

I cannot fathom any reason why the jazz would want Allen on that contract.

 

[Yuma]

I stumbled upon the perfect trade to balance out our roster while listening to the Locked on Suns Podcast. Credit to Brendon Kleen and Ben Garcia.

Once the Suns get under the 2nd apron and can aggregate salaries, we trade Allen and O'Neale to Utah for John Collins.

Collins will be only 28 when the season starts and averaged 19/8 with a block last season, albeit playing only 40 games. He shot just under 40% from 3 on 3.7 attempts per game. He's the perfect stretch 4 who can still rebound. To top it off, he's expiring so we turn Allen and O'Neale into an expiring contract.

Ainge has been trying to trade Collins for a while, and the Suns were reportedly going to acquire him before Ishbia came in and pulled the trigger on Durant. The big question is, why does Utah do it? Why do they take on the years of future salary owed Allen and O'Neale? You gotta hope Ainge really loves Allen or he thinks he can spin them off in season to contenders for more picks.

With Allen and O'Neale gone, the roster becomes much more balanced. Collins slots in at PF and gives Fleming a year to develop. The roster is completely overhauled around Book with only Gillespie, Dunn, Oso, and Richards returning. Trade Richards for a back-up point guard or sign CP3 and we are cooking.

1. Booker, (Paul), Gillespie
2. Green, Brea
3. Brooks, Dunn
4. Collins, Fleming
5. Williams, Maluach, Richards, Oso

It's funny Collins is only 28. It seems like he has played FOREVER!!!

 

[Yuma]

I’m not doubting that the jazz are partial to white players, but I also don’t think that he will impact their season ticket sales in any meaningful way whatsoever, especially not in a way that offsets his stupid salary that we paid him.

He’s just a guy, an especially useless guy to a team with no hope for meaningful basketball in the near future.

I cannot fathom any reason why the jazz would want Allen on that contract.

Salaries are going up as the cap grows season over season. I keep seeing NBA types saying he has a reasonable salary.

 

[Yuma]

We're talking about an average white NBA player in Utah. Grayson will be hailed as the best thing since caffeine free Pepsi.

I'm not one of those guys who overhypes Grayson either. I wasn't a fan of his extension as he was overpaid but he does have value. Pair him with Markkennen and I think he could regain some of what got him paid.

I like Collins as a rental, of sorts. He's a legit 6'10" big who can stretch the floor while also not being afraid of contact inside. I fear we might overpay him after a decent year here but that would give us an intriguing frontcourt. As is constructed we lack size, which Collins brings.


Royce is average and undersized 3&D wing. He isnt particularly great but you know what he brings every night. He'll always play above average defense and knock down open looks. He's overpaid but not at the same amount Allen is as he brings more to the table.

You bring him in to mentor Rasheer.

 

[angel_ofthe_south]

The Suns definitely cannot bring this point guard back, because he stated last year that he was retiring--Ricky Rubio. I regret that, because I never got to see him lead the Suns. My back was still turned then; it was during my five-year estrangement from Suns basketball. If he were still available and I were the Suns FO, I would in a second ask him to return. The defense and leadership qualities that I heard about have intrigued me for years. I will always wonder what I missed. I would guess that he was enormously important in getting the Suns to and through that 8-0 bubble run.

 

[Hoop Head]

I’m not doubting that the jazz are partial to white players, but I also don’t think that he will impact their season ticket sales in any meaningful way whatsoever, especially not in a way that offsets his stupid salary that we paid him.

He’s just a guy, an especially useless guy to a team with no hope for meaningful basketball in the near future.

I cannot fathom any reason why the jazz would want Allen on that contract.

They have to pay someone. Why not pay someone that keeps fans engaged that also provides a skill. Like I said, they can flip him again later. He has 3 years left on his deal now. Sure, Collins is expiring but the Jazz need guard help. They're loaded with bigs, albeit mediocre bigs, and Grayson could shine there to rehab his value and possibly inflate it.

Look at what has happened to Lauri in Utah. He's a fine player but he's now an All-Star and has almost priced himself out of being dealt because no one is giving up assets for an All-Star to acquire a guy like him, who is really just a 3rd or 4th wheel that can get hot.

Let Grayson play off Lauri for a few months and flip him at the deadline for a pick. Royce's deal is manageable. They can keep him a little while longer if they can't flip him as he's a good veteran that did well in Utah before and won't rock the boat.

 

[Folster]

It's funny Collins is only 28. It seems like he has played FOREVER!!!

I was surprised too. I was guessing 31ish before I checked, but he's only 27. Cam Johnson is 29. Crazy.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You bring him in to mentor Rasheer.

Hasn’t collins always been seen as a “me first” guy? If so, not mentor material. Ironic that you push back against Paul who has a history of raising young players games as a mentor but want this guy for that role.

 

[95pro]

There goes Collins to the Clippers.

 

[Chaplin]

Is there a reason why the Clippers wanted to trade Powell? He seemed like a good player for them.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Is there a reason why the Clippers wanted to trade Powell? He seemed like a good player for them.

They went bigger