Suns Hire Ott as New Coach
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Its like he’s trying make us hate him with every time he opens his mouth or makes a decision.
We all know Ishbia was involved in the KD deal as he had direct conversations with Joe Tsai of Brooklyn to make it happen. Since then it's debatable how involved he was. I don't see getting further into the trenches helps now that JJ is gone, who was a problem on his own. The KD trade happened 2-3 days after the sale was completed so it's not like there's been a time where Ishbia wasn't involved. Maybe he wasn't directly involved in the Nurk'ening but outside of that, nothing happened. There have been clear problems and needs that went unaddressed that I blame JJ for in large part but Ishbia isn't free from blame since he allowed it. He knows basketball well enough that seeing things like we need rebounding and frontcourt depth was obvious to any spectator.
This all sounds Sarver-esque.
This all sounds Sarver-esque.
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Very, very much so. I don’t think it’s even arguable that he was the final weight that tipped the balance making the KD trade happen. It literally happened right after he got control of the team. And that move has been the giant domino that has led to every other domino dropping that’s made this team a total disaster.
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HE'S THE FREAKIN PROBLEM THO
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can we sue ishbia - can we start a petition
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It's really bad, and this is the worst we've heard. He legit thinks he's smarter than everyone else, and because he killed it in mortgages and played some college ball, it's time he takes the reins and reinvent the NBA model.
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gregory and ott were hired because matt ishbia wants to make the trades and decide who plays - ish is going to be owner and operator - he's hired the yes men to make it so - this isn't the suns anymore - booker will eventually want out - ish is literally on pace to be the worst owner in nba history - the phoenix suns were a contender with draft picks - the mishigan bia bia's will never reach that status - ever - mark my words - ishbia thinks he is smarter than everybody but will continue to prove otherwise
Yeah I mean what’s the guy supposed say? I really preferred coach xyz?
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Has any owner gone from savior to public enemy number 1 in this short a time? I guess Dallas' owner is in the running
Setting the team up for a move somewhere closer to Michigan?
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I’ve been thinking about this. I’m not sure if I totally believe my own theory, but for arguments sake, maybe adding Ishbia didn’t tip the balance as much as removing Sarver did. Maybe Sarver was standing in the way of the Durant trade because he didn’t want the increased payroll and when Ishbia took over he just told James to do what he thought was best. Maybe that’s why Ishbia sounds so annoyed in the internal letter since everyone says he was the sole reason for the Durant trade. Anybody buying that theory? Am I buying that theory? Who knows!?!
If he moves to Flint and becomes the Tropics then I'll still be a fan.
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The problem with that theory is we know Ishbia talked to Tsai personally to push the deal through. If he were blindsided or caught off guard by it then why go to those lengths to make it happen? It doesn't add up. If he had fired JJ after that season, or even last offseason, then maybe that holds more water. As is, I can see Sarver being a massive roadblock. We all know he didn't want to pay Ayton max money. Add in how he was suspended and there was no way he could swallow up the press from a KD deal, he wouldn't let it happen without him. How much falls to Ish and how much to JJ is anyone's guess but I'd say both wanted it or it wouldn't have happened at the price it did.
Ishbia, not JJ, came out after the Beal trade and said to hell with the apron also. He was most definitely in the weeds.
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Sticking with the theory (that once again I don’t know if I believe), I don’t think Ishbia was blindsided, maybe when Ishbia took over he told JJ, do what you think is best and let me know what I can do to help. JJ then asked Mat to talk to Tsai personally to see if he could help push it over the top. And then with Beal, maybe Ishbia’s involvement didn’t go any farther than telling JJ not to worry about money and he had no problem going into the second apron.
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Well, there is no doubt who is making the decisions for the Suns now.
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As I read it, intentionally or not, the letter Mat Ishbia sent to the members of the Suns basketball operations staff seems to lay a lot of the Suns problems at the feet of James James even if his name is not mentioned.
After all, he was the Suns GM when he took over ownership in 2023 until recently.
BY KELLAN OLSON Suns reporter, ArizonaSports.com editor, Jun 4, 2025, 12:57 PM | Updated: 3:22 pm:
“I’m aware that this approach is different from most other NBA franchises. I’m not the conventional NBA owner and I don’t want to be. I’ve tried running the typical NBA owner playbook – hiring the experts, signing the checks, and getting out of the way – and none of us were happy with the outcome. Making the playoffs two out of three years, and only winning one playoff series, is not good enough for this franchise and this community.”
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After all, he was the Suns GM when he took over ownership in 2023 until recently.
BY KELLAN OLSON Suns reporter, ArizonaSports.com editor, Jun 4, 2025, 12:57 PM | Updated: 3:22 pm:
“I’m aware that this approach is different from most other NBA franchises. I’m not the conventional NBA owner and I don’t want to be. I’ve tried running the typical NBA owner playbook – hiring the experts, signing the checks, and getting out of the way – and none of us were happy with the outcome. Making the playoffs two out of three years, and only winning one playoff series, is not good enough for this franchise and this community.”
Jordan Ott hiring adds concern on Suns' decision-making tree
The Phoenix Suns have a new head coach and it is former Michigan State video coord-- I mean, Cleveland Cavaliers assistant Jordan Ott.
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This is sort of like bringing Elon Musk in to run the federal government. Even Trump figured out before too long how terrible an idea that was.
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I got that, too. I guess the proof will be in what happens from here out. But I do absolutely believe that A) Ishbia is really obsessed with having a champion here, B) Ishbia is also overweening and convinced he knows everything about everything, and B) James Jones is an utterly incompetent buffoon.As I read it, intentionally or not, the letter Mat Ishbia sent to the members of the Suns basketball operations staff seems to lay a lot of the Suns problems at the feet of James James even if his name is not mentioned.
After all, he was the Suns GM when he took over ownership in 2023 until recently.
BY KELLAN OLSON Suns reporter, ArizonaSports.com editor, Jun 4, 2025, 12:57 PM | Updated: 3:22 pm:
“I’m aware that this approach is different from most other NBA franchises. I’m not the conventional NBA owner and I don’t want to be. I’ve tried running the typical NBA owner playbook – hiring the experts, signing the checks, and getting out of the way – and none of us were happy with the outcome. Making the playoffs two out of three years, and only winning one playoff series, is not good enough for this franchise and this community.”
Jordan Ott hiring adds concern on Suns' decision-making tree
The Phoenix Suns have a new head coach and it is former Michigan State video coord-- I mean, Cleveland Cavaliers assistant Jordan Ott.
How much each of those elements have contributed to where we are at the present, I can't say for certain.
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I Ott to care about this hire, but I don't. The Suns are dead to me. I honestly don't see any way they can be relevant again in less than ten years, by which time I will definitely be too old to care.
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I am open-minded. I wanted someone else, but I was also super excited about the last two coaches, and that didn't turn out well. This guy is qualified. I don't think he's the most qualified, but he is more qualified for this job than our current GM is for his job. I am not excited, but I am definitely open-minded.
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