OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Crimson Warrior]

Without K1 they lose this game today.

Some really big 3rd down conversions and some nice drives despite the horrific play calling and special teams making it close.

And the pass protection was bad today, too.

 

[602 Native]

And the pass protection was bad today, too.

It was awful but the K1 haters don’t see that.

It’s just a single missed pass not the free rushers on every drive.

 

[kerouac9]

I still think Lawrence & Kyler are even. Both are very inconsistent. Will look like top 5 highs than bottom lows.

Bryce a little worse.

Tua hasn’t had top 5 highs since early 2022.

Tua lead the league in passing two seasons ago. Guys who suck don’t throw for 4600 yards.

McDaniel can’t wait to get fired.

 

[DVontel]

Guys who suck don’t throw for 4600 yards

Jameis?

 

[602 Native]

Tua lead the league in passing two seasons ago. Guys who suck don’t throw for 4600 yards.

McDaniel can’t wait to get fired.

Please sweet baby Jesus bring McDaniel to the desert as our OC.

 

[GatorAZ]

Tua lead the league in passing two seasons ago. Guys who suck don’t throw for 4600 yards.

McDaniel can’t wait to get fired.

Tua’s been hit too many times he used to be good but he’s damaged goods.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

It was awful but the K1 haters don’t see that.

It’s just a single missed pass not the free rushers on every drive.

At least there were no injuries to the oline today, and I'm a big believer that a group of five guys will get better the more they play together.

It's not hopeless I guess, but I agree with you - what happens when we play a good front four like SEA?

 

[kerouac9]

Jameis?

The Arians and Jameis marriage should have been forced to last longer

 

[DaHilg]

At least there were no injuries to the oline today, and I'm a big believer that a group of five guys will get better the more they play together.

It's not hopeless I guess, but I agree with you - what happens when we play a good front four like SEA?

I don’t know Adam’s was like stuck in cement bad and Jonah wasn’t far behind

 

[DaHilg]

How dis MO not see OL upgrades as a major need?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Without K1 they lose this game today.

Some really big 3rd down conversions and some nice drives despite the horrific play calling and special teams making it close.

Ya that 3 points and 30 something yards in the second half is tough to replace.

 

[602 Native]

Ya that 3 points and 30 something yards in the second half is tough to replace.

Petzing the turtle and our terrible oline can be blamed for that

 

[Shane]

Petzing the turtle and our terrible oline can be blamed for that

Who’s to blame on back to back blatant misses to a wide open McBride? Killing a drive in the second half?

 

[WisconsinCard]

Petzing the turtle and our terrible oline can be blamed for that

Just more excuses. Wasn't that the same OC and line that lead to a 125 yard and two TDS in the first half? Oh sorry that doesn't fit the K1 can never be held accountable. My bad...

 

[WisconsinCard]

Who’s to blame on back to back blatant misses to a wide open McBride? Killing a drive in the second half?

Obviously the sun was in his eyes...

In a dome...

 

[602 Native]

Who’s to blame on back to back blatant misses to a wide open McBride? Killing a drive in the second half?

The same guy who saved multiple drives on third down.

 

[Stout]

It was awful but the K1 haters don’t see that.

It’s just a single missed pass not the free rushers on every drive.

Actually, there are moments where there was nothing he could do. That bad sack on the first drive was totally on the TEs screwing up the assignment in blocking and not at all on Kyler.

At other times, Kyler had fault. Twice on the second drive he took losses rather than throwing it away. That last sack that screwed our field position was a Kyler classic.

The IOL was absolutely not good. Tons of penalties and bad pass pro.

See, even analysis.

 

[Stout]

How dis MO not see OL upgrades as a major need?

We banged the drum for this for sure.

 

[Stout]

Petzing the turtle and our terrible oline can be blamed for that

That's where your blind KM loyalty kills you and all credibility goes out the window. There are complaints about the OL and Petzing, for sure. But you try to put it ALL on them. Like, no, man. Kyler missed a wide-open TD play. Badly. It's a trifecta of offensive blame, but you want to only blame two aspects.

 

[602 Native]

That's where your blind KM loyalty kills you and all credibility goes out the window. There are complaints about the OL and Petzing, for sure. But you try to put it ALL on them. Like, no, man. Kyler missed a wide-open TD play. Badly. It's a trifecta of offensive blame, but you want to only blame two aspects.

And this is your thoughts and feelings as usual.

Zero guarantee that pass connects it’s a touchdown but please continue to predict the future. Lots of distance to that goal line and we all know MHJ and the fastest dude.

Was it a miss? Yep but that as far as it goes.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

And this is your thoughts and feelings as usual.

Zero guarantee that pass connects it’s a touchdown but please continue to predict the future. Lots of distance to that goal line and we all know MHJ and the fastest dude.

Was it a miss? Yep but that as far as it goes.

That is so crazy how, it's not just a missed pass, but is referred to as a "wide open TD play", or "missed TD pass" as if Marvelous was already in the end zone. He was on about our 25 or 30. lol

 

[TJ]

Both Drew and Kyler were equally worthless

 

[602 Native]

That is so crazy how, it's not just a missed pass, but is referred to as a "wide open TD play", or "missed TD pass" as if Marvelous was already in the end zone. He was on about our 25 or 30. lol

It’s part of the lies they have to tell to make things bigger than they are.

Says a lot about them.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I know what a clean pocket looks like because I saw opposing QBs doing their taxes before throwing a pass against us last season.

And Murray didn't have very many clean pockets in 2024. There were not necessarily a lot of free runners at him, but week in and week out, the pocket was getting collapsed quickly. 2024 Pass pro was a C-/D+. That's my opinion, if you disagree, great.

I do disagree.

 

[WisconsinCard]

It’s part of the lies they have to tell to make things bigger than they are.

Says a lot about them.

Kind of like the lies/posts that indicate it's never Kyler's fault. And I'm not singling you out, there are many posts like this